[RE-wrenches] UL/CSA listed battery monitor?

Ray ray at solarray.com
Tue Jul 10 17:02:25 EDT 2018


This is probably a dumb question, but is the NiCad battery UL listed?  
Most batteries are not.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 7/10/18 2:19 PM, bob at midnitesolar.com wrote:
>
>
> I don't know of any listed battery monitors.  Not sure what spec they 
> would be tested to ?
>
> However...
> In Canada, I have heard of systems being individually blessed by 
> inspectors or whoever that
> include products that don't have listings but everything in the system 
> had to have a listing.
>
> I know that this was done for our wind Clipper in Canada not long ago.
>
> Email me directly and I can try to find the particulars of that 
> situation if it might help here.
>
> Thanks,
> boB
>
>
> On 7/10/2018 11:36 AM, bob at midnitesolar.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to clarify, MidNite has two (2) battery monitors....  Sort of...
>>
>> The  MNBCM that Tom referred to is a shunt-less voltage monitor that 
>> lets you know when
>> the battery has not received an Absorb charge cycle for 1 week and 2 
>> weeks.  It also has
>> somewhat of a voltage meter.  It is purely based on battery voltage 
>> and looks for the rise
>> in voltage for an accumulated of around 2 hours or so...  It has a 
>> semi-circle of LEDs on it.
>>
>> Then the Whizbang Junior is a 500A @ 50 mV shunt tack-on circuit 
>> board that connects to
>> the MidNite Classic or Kid charge controllers that calculates State 
>> Of Charge based on
>> Amp-Hours in and out of the bank.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> boB
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/2018 9:09 AM, Dan Fink wrote:
>>> The Midnite battery monitor requires a shunt, it piggybacks onto 
>>> that shunt.
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Tom Duffy <Tom at solar-biz.com 
>>> <mailto:Tom at solar-biz.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Look at either the BlueSky IPM Pro Remote with shunt or the
>>>     Schneider Battery monitor. The MidNite Battery monitor is more
>>>     basic as it has no shunt
>>>
>>>     Kind regards
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>>>     *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] UL/CSA listed battery monitor?
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>>>     I have a client who needs a monitoring system for a 48V nominal
>>>     NiCad battery bank on a boat. It's 4 parallel strings of 6V
>>>     batteries. (Not ideal, I know) It's a passenger boat in Canada
>>>     so all electrical devices need to be UL/CSA listed. None of the
>>>     Bogart Engineering monitors are listed.
>>>
>>>     Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>
>>>     Hilton
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