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    <p>This is probably a dumb question, but is the NiCad battery UL
      listed?  Most batteries are not.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/18 2:19 PM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bob@midnitesolar.com">bob@midnitesolar.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      I don't know of any listed battery monitors.  Not sure what spec
      they would be tested to ?<br>
      <br>
      However...<br>
      In Canada, I have heard of systems being individually blessed by
      inspectors or whoever that<br>
      include products that don't have listings but everything in the
      system had to have a listing.<br>
      <br>
      I know that this was done for our wind Clipper in Canada not long
      ago.<br>
      <br>
      Email me directly and I can try to find the particulars of that
      situation if it might help here.<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      boB<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/2018 11:36 AM, <a
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        Just to clarify, MidNite has two (2) battery monitors....  Sort
        of...<br>
        <br>
        The  MNBCM that Tom referred to is a shunt-less voltage monitor
        that lets you know when<br>
        the battery has not received an Absorb charge cycle for 1 week
        and 2 weeks.  It also has<br>
        somewhat of a voltage meter.  It is purely based on battery
        voltage and looks for the rise<br>
        in voltage for an accumulated of around 2 hours or so...  It has
        a semi-circle of LEDs on it.<br>
        <br>
        Then the Whizbang Junior is a 500A @ 50 mV shunt tack-on circuit
        board that connects to<br>
        the MidNite Classic or Kid charge controllers that calculates
        State Of Charge based on<br>
        Amp-Hours in and out of the bank.<br>
        <br>
        Thanks,<br>
        boB<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/2018 9:09 AM, Dan Fink
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                        at either the BlueSky IPM Pro Remote with shunt
                        or the Schneider Battery monitor. The MidNite
                        Battery monitor is more basic as it has no shunt</span></p>
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                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hilton Dier III<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 09, 2018 9:06 PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> <a
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                              <b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] UL/CSA
                              listed battery monitor?</span></span></p>
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                    <p><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                        Roman&quot;,serif">I have a client who needs a
                        monitoring system for a 48V nominal NiCad
                        battery bank on a boat. It's 4 parallel strings
                        of 6V batteries. (Not ideal, I know) It's a
                        passenger boat in Canada so all electrical
                        devices need to be UL/CSA listed. None of the
                        Bogart Engineering monitors are listed.</span></p>
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                        <p><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                            Roman&quot;,serif">Any suggestions
                            appreciated.</span></p>
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                        <p><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New
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