[RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation methods

Darryl Thayer daryl_solar at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 28 14:52:02 PST 2011


I installed a system provides by another, it failed, because of defective 
equipment, I am being sued to replace the defective equipment
DT




________________________________
From: boB Gudgel <boB at midnitesolar.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 11:25:34 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation 
methods

On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote: 
Joel,
> 
>Our company cannot survive without selling an entire                 system.  
>When we help the unqualified and untrained we                 legitimize 
>unsubstantiated pv businesses.  We get  a                 dozen phone calls a 
>month from folks wanting us to                 install their systems.  It is a 
>rat hole and we have                 learned that not only are such ventures 
>unprofitable,                 they are fraught with poor designs and a plethora 
>of                 other hassles.  This whole thing reminds me of the                 
>Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems                 were 
>installed, but look at the damage it did to the                 industry.
> 
>Respectfully, 
>
> 


I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to     start 
installing roofs, too !!

boB







>
>Andrew Koyaanisqatsi
>President
>Solar Energy Solutions,                     Inc.
>Since 1987,
>Moving Portland and Beyond 
>to an Environmentally Sustainable                   Future.
>503-238-4502
>www.solarenergyoregon.com 
> 
>"Better one's                     House too little one day
>than too big all                     the Year after."
>
>--- On Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Joel Davidson <joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net>
>>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =                 creative, 
>>new installation methods
>>To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM
>>
>>
>> 
>>Guys,
>>You're missing a                       business opportunity. Instead of 
>>complaining about                       roofers' bad work and competition, show 
>>the                       company owners photos of their screw-ups and your                       
>>quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then                       offer to do 
>>their design and electrical                       installation (let them do the 
>>sales, roofing, and                       grunt work).
>>Joel Davidson
>>----- Original                       Message ----- 
>>>From: Warren                         Lauzon 
>>>To: RE-wrenches 
>>>Sent: Friday,                       January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
>>>Subject: Re:                       [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =                       
>>>creative,new installation methods
>>>
>>>
>>>We have seen a lot of the roofing companies                           nibbling 
>>>around the edges of solar installs                           lately. I have only 
>>>seen a couple of installs                           personally, and they were 
>>>far from what I                           would call professional or reliable. 
>>>Not quite                           as bad as your example, but in one case they                           
>>>had used Romex to run the wiring down to the                           inverter, 
>>>and not in conduit.
>>>  
>>>From: Nick                                   Soleil 
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27,                                 2011 8:11 PM
>>>To: re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>>>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roofers                                 installing solar 
>>>= creative,new                                 installation methods
>>>  Hi wrenches:
>>>   Have you noticed that roofing companies                             have 
>>>recently been trying to sell solar?                              One company 
>>>thought of something that I had                             never considered.  
>>>Listen to this neat                             story.
>>>   I was servicing a job today, where a                             roofing 
>>>company recently removed and                             re-installed a PV array 
>>>on a 12 degree                             sloped roof.  The funny thing is that 
>>>the                             roofer didn't want to penetrate his new                             
>>>roof, so he and the customer decided to                             leave the 
>>>panels sitting on the composition                             roof without any 
>>>attachments to the                             structure.  They didn't think it 
>>>was                             necessary!  
>>>
>>>    Shortly afterward, the array slid down                             the roof, 
>>>and a MultiContact connector came                             unplugged.  The 
>>>customer noticed that his                             system was not operating, 
>>>and called us to                             the site.  
>>>
>>>
>>> 
Nick Soleil
>>>Project Manager
>>>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
>>>PO Box 657
>>>Petaluma, CA 94953
>>>Cell: 707-321-2937
>>>Office: 707-789-9537
>>>Fax: 707-769-9037 
>>> 
>>>  



      
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20110128/f3bbd0a4/attachment-0003.html>


More information about the RE-wrenches mailing list