[RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation methods
Darryl Thayer
daryl_solar at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 28 14:52:02 PST 2011
I installed a system provides by another, it failed, because of defective
equipment, I am being sued to replace the defective equipment
DT
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From: boB Gudgel <boB at midnitesolar.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 11:25:34 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation
methods
On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote:
Joel,
>
>Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system.
>When we help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize
>unsubstantiated pv businesses. We get a dozen phone calls a
>month from folks wanting us to install their systems. It is a
>rat hole and we have learned that not only are such ventures
>unprofitable, they are fraught with poor designs and a plethora
>of other hassles. This whole thing reminds me of the
>Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems were
>installed, but look at the damage it did to the industry.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>
I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to start
installing roofs, too !!
boB
>
>Andrew Koyaanisqatsi
>President
>Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.
>Since 1987,
>Moving Portland and Beyond
>to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.
>503-238-4502
>www.solarenergyoregon.com
>
>"Better one's House too little one day
>than too big all the Year after."
>
>--- On Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Joel Davidson <joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net>
>>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,
>>new installation methods
>>To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Guys,
>>You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of
>>complaining about roofers' bad work and competition, show
>>the company owners photos of their screw-ups and your
>>quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then offer to do
>>their design and electrical installation (let them do the
>>sales, roofing, and grunt work).
>>Joel Davidson
>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Warren Lauzon
>>>To: RE-wrenches
>>>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
>>>creative,new installation methods
>>>
>>>
>>>We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling
>>>around the edges of solar installs lately. I have only
>>>seen a couple of installs personally, and they were
>>>far from what I would call professional or reliable.
>>>Not quite as bad as your example, but in one case they
>>>had used Romex to run the wiring down to the inverter,
>>>and not in conduit.
>>>
>>>From: Nick Soleil
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM
>>>To: re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
>>>Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar
>>>= creative,new installation methods
>>> Hi wrenches:
>>> Have you noticed that roofing companies have
>>>recently been trying to sell solar? One company
>>>thought of something that I had never considered.
>>>Listen to this neat story.
>>> I was servicing a job today, where a roofing
>>>company recently removed and re-installed a PV array
>>>on a 12 degree sloped roof. The funny thing is that
>>>the roofer didn't want to penetrate his new
>>>roof, so he and the customer decided to leave the
>>>panels sitting on the composition roof without any
>>>attachments to the structure. They didn't think it
>>>was necessary!
>>>
>>> Shortly afterward, the array slid down the roof,
>>>and a MultiContact connector came unplugged. The
>>>customer noticed that his system was not operating,
>>>and called us to the site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
Nick Soleil
>>>Project Manager
>>>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
>>>PO Box 657
>>>Petaluma, CA 94953
>>>Cell: 707-321-2937
>>>Office: 707-789-9537
>>>Fax: 707-769-9037
>>>
>>>
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