[RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation methods

[boB Gudgel]

On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote:
> Joel,
> Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system.  When we 
> help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize unsubstantiated pv 
> businesses.  We get  a dozen phone calls a month from folks wanting us 
> to install their systems.  It is a rat hole and we have learned that 
> not only are such ventures unprofitable, they are fraught with poor 
> designs and a plethora of other hassles.  This whole thing reminds me 
> of the Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems were 
> installed, but look at the damage it did to the industry.
> Respectfully,
>



I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to start 
installing roofs, too !!

boB





>
> *Andrew Koyaanisqatsi*
> President
> *Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.*
> Since 1987,
> Moving Portland and Beyond
> to an Environmentally Sustainable Future.
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> **
> *"Better one's House too little one day*
> *than too big all the Year after."*
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson /<joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net>/* 
> wrote:
>
>
>     From: Joel Davidson <joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net>
>     Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative,
>     new installation methods
>     To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>     Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM
>
>     Guys,
>     You're missing a business opportunity. Instead of complaining
>     about roofers' bad work and competition, show the company owners
>     photos of their screw-ups and your quality work. Tell him that he
>     is a risk. Then offer to do their design and electrical
>     installation (let them do the sales, roofing, and grunt work).
>     Joel Davidson
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Warren Lauzon
>         <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=warren@wind-sun.com>
>
>         *To:* RE-wrenches
>         <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>
>         *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 3:35 AM
>         *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
>         creative,new installation methods
>
>         We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling around
>         the edges of solar installs lately. I have only seen a couple
>         of installs personally, and they were far from what I would
>         call professional or reliable. Not quite as bad as your
>         example, but in one case they had used Romex to run the wiring
>         down to the inverter, and not in conduit.
>         *From:* Nick Soleil
>         <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com>
>
>         *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM
>         *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
>         <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>
>         *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
>         creative,new installation methods
>         Hi wrenches:
>            Have you noticed that roofing companies have recently been
>         trying to sell solar?  One company thought of something that I
>         had never considered.  Listen to this neat story.
>            I was servicing a job today, where a roofing company
>         recently removed and re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree
>         sloped roof.  The funny thing is that the roofer didn't want
>         to penetrate his new roof, so he and the customer decided to
>         leave the panels sitting on the composition roof without any
>         attachments to the structure.  They didn't think it was
>         necessary!
>             Shortly afterward, the array slid down the roof, and a
>         MultiContact connector came unplugged.  The customer noticed
>         that his system was not operating, and called us to the site.
>         Nick Soleil
>         Project Manager
>         Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC
>         PO Box 657
>         Petaluma, CA 94953
>         Cell: 707-321-2937
>         Office: 707-789-9537
>         Fax: 707-769-9037
>

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