<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I installed a system provides by another, it failed, because of defective equipment, I am being sued to replace the defective equipment<br>DT<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> boB Gudgel <boB@midnitesolar.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, January 28, 2011 11:25:34 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation methods<br></font><br>
On 1/28/2011 8:41 AM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote:
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<div>Our company cannot survive without selling an entire
system. When we help the unqualified and untrained we
legitimize unsubstantiated pv businesses. We get a
dozen phone calls a month from folks wanting us to
install their systems. It is a rat hole and we have
learned that not only are such ventures unprofitable,
they are fraught with poor designs and a plethora of
other hassles. This whole thing reminds me of the
Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a bunch of systems
were installed, but look at the damage it did to the
industry.</div>
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<div>Respectfully, <br>
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I just hope that the solar installers' industry doesn't have to
start installing roofs, too !!<br>
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boB<br>
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--- On <b>Fri, 1/28/11, Joel Davidson <i><a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net"><joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net></a></i></b>
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From: Joel Davidson <a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net"><joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net></a><br>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
creative, new installation methods<br>
To: "RE-wrenches"
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Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 7:06 AM<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Guys,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You're missing a
business opportunity. Instead of complaining about
roofers' bad work and competition, show the
company owners photos of their screw-ups and your
quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then
offer to do their design and electrical
installation (let them do the sales, roofing, and
grunt work).</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Joel Davidson</font></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" title="warren@wind-sun.com" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=warren@wind-sun.com">Warren
Lauzon</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
January 28, 2011 3:35 AM</div>
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<div>We have seen a lot of the roofing companies
nibbling around the edges of solar installs
lately. I have only seen a couple of installs
personally, and they were far from what I
would call professional or reliable. Not quite
as bad as your example, but in one case they
had used Romex to run the wiring down to the
inverter, and not in conduit.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com">Nick
Soleil</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27,
2011 8:11 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Roofers
installing solar = creative,new
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi wrenches:<br>
Have you noticed that roofing companies
have recently been trying to sell solar?
One company thought of something that I had
never considered. Listen to this neat
story.<br>
I was servicing a job today, where a
roofing company recently removed and
re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree
sloped roof. The funny thing is that the
roofer didn't want to penetrate his new
roof, so he and the customer decided to
leave the panels sitting on the composition
roof without any attachments to the
structure. They didn't think it was
necessary! <br>
Shortly afterward, the array slid down
the roof, and a MultiContact connector came
unplugged. The customer noticed that his
system was not operating, and called us to
the site. <br>
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Nick Soleil<br>
Project Manager<br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
PO Box 657<br>
Petaluma, CA 94953<br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037
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