[RE-wrenches] XW PRO/AC Hydro

[Michael Morningstar]

> I bet if you thought a little harder, you could get it even more complicated. Ha, Ha Jerry :)

Thanks Dave. Yes, the solution is a 15KV transmission line. Should have done it last year as that $150K run of copper is pushing 400K.

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I bet if you thought a little harder, you could get it even more complicated. If the hydro has both freq and voltage control then look at a dumb charger. Keeping it all independent will be safest. On the other hand l used an outback and connected a wind turbine to the AC in and the inverter just used it first. I set the max input amps and it worked and the inverter picked up the rest, l did have a water heater as a dump and it would pop the t&p sometimes. I dont know how well if at all the voltage is regulated on your controller  and It can get complicated.
> Jerry
> 
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 12:49 PM Michael Morningstar <mjmorningstar at gmail.com <mailto:mjmorningstar at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Will this work?
> 
>    A friend has an off-grid property that is served by a Canyon Industries AC turbine w/ T&H controller. Output is around 2kw. Of course, no surge capacity there. He has recently moved there full time and is Vrbo’ing one of the cabins so power needs have increased.
> 
>   What I have done previously in these situations with low Kw AC turbines is install a battery based system and Iota chargers that are powered from the turbine. That’s always worked well, BUT now that we are disciples of the Discover AES/XW pairing I thought I would try this: 
> 
> 1) Connect the turbine’s output to AC2 and use Gen Support to enable loads above 2kw or surges. That’s placing a lot of faith in Gen Support, and if it were to not respond quick enough, well …trouble. The site is six hours away.
> 
> Then my friend tells me that he would like to throttle the turbine down during the summer to conserve water, reducing output to .5-1kw. So, I got to thinking:
> 
> 2) One inverter for charging only. One inverter for power output only. Charging inverter communicates with AES through Xanbus and is connected to a Gateway/Insight so that I can remotely adjust AC2 input current to scale with seasonal turbine fluctuations. Neither inverter is Synced or knows of the other’s existence. Output inverter gets a SCP for basic control	and monitoring. Battery bank is connected to a Discover SOC monitor.
> 
> I guess my questions are: Do you see any problems with this arrangement? Would having what amounts to an external load (the output generator) trip things up since it’s not communicating w/ the batteries? Could/Should I include the output inverter in the Xanbus loop? And/Or can I connect the output inverter to the Gateway device since it has two inputs,
> Xanbus 1 and 2.
> 
> I’ve tried to reach Schneider to speak about this to no avail. Great product, not so great support.
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> Michael
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	Michael Morningstar

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