[RE-wrenches] HUP cell removal
Allan Sindelar
allan at sindelarsolar.com
Fri Nov 8 13:19:41 EST 2019
Agreed on all points, and one more. The Northwest Energy Storage (www.hupsolarone.com) website is unsurpassed, and set up so that I can send clients to it, for dimensions and weights, capacities, proper care, min/max charging rates... and retail prices, so no questions about what the cost will be.
Allan
(P.S. - worst battery website: Ibe-inc.com for IBE industrial FLA batteries. Useless lack of info that hasn’t been updated since the WWW was invented.)
> On Nov 8, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Jeff Clearwater <jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com> wrote:
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> Yes I like the HUPS for many of the same reasons Ray wrote: I also like that depending on the site I can choose to move them in 900-1800 lb units (6 of the 2V cells in one steel can depending on model) or remove them individually (150-300lbs) and move them that way if needed.
>
> The install time if moved in the cans is only 3 intertie cables. I do recommend that folks re-torque the factory installed interties though as they seem to loosen with thermal cycling.
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> They also come with a great warranty and free shipping - the steel cases make them great for shipping to developing world in a container.
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> And I've received nothing but the best service from NW Energy Storage.
>
> They are my go-to battery for wet cell Pb-acid for sure for large systems.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Jeff Clearwater
> Village Power Design
>
>
> Ray wrote on 11/7/19 7:09 AM:
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>> They are made up of removable 2 v cells, and they are much better than the Surrettes. They come with all the interconnects prewired, have a better warranty, longer cycle life, free shipping, and most importantly they Perform better. They will outlast all of the batteries you listed, not just on paper, but in real life. They also hold their voltage under load much better than the Surrettes. Once customers go with the HUPs, we quit having to worry about them.
>>
>> We primarily have our power equipment in the garage of the house, then use a Bob cat to move the batteries straight off the truck and into their final resting place in under 30 minutes. I sold and installed some of the other brands before settling on the HUPs many years ago. The previous install Pic was just demonstrating how they can be disassembled if needed, here's how we do it most of the time:
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>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>> On 11/7/19 7:27 AM, frenergy wrote:
>>> I'm with you, the replacement battery for these HUPs are Surrettes.
>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2019 4:26 AM, Tump wrote:
>>>> My question is WHY do folks still install these steel cased Pain the A*& BBs when we have 2 volt cells (UnigiII/Surrette/Crown)that have up to 2400AH @20hr rate and are easily moved by hand, fork truck, shovel! 2 volt cells is always the way to go.
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
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>>>>> We've used an engine hoist before, but for tight spaces, we built a rig out of unistrut with a small block and tackle. Come along can be hard to use, and puts dangerous metal parts over the battery.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've since gone to a winch system, and also try to move the batteries on rollers without taking the cells out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray Walters
>>>>> Remote Solar
>>>>> 303 505-8760
>>>>>> On 11/5/19 6:36 AM, Michael Packard wrote:
>>>>>> I did this exact same thing for a 48v Hup one battery bank. Engine hoist worked like a charm and my back was very thankful!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:09 AM Allan Sindelar <allan at sindelarsolar.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill, I just did that a month ago, and it went amazingly smoothly. Earlier, on a similar HUP replacement, I told the (absentee) client that I would rent an engine hoist to lift the cells out of the steel cases, and he advised me that it would cost him less labor and travel if I bought one of the Chinese engine hoists from Harbor Freight for $90 and just kept it. Turned out to be a good application for CCC (thanks, Bob-O). A concrete floor, the engine hoist, a simple hand truck and a strong assistant to share the load made light work of both removal and installation - all 4,000 pounds of it, one 200 lb. cell at a time... so I went dancing that evening.
>>>>>>> Allan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Nov 4, 2019, at 9:46 PM, frenergy <frenergy at psln.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm going to have to remove the cells from 4 HUP Solar1 battery cases to change-out the pack (no option, bad access). Anyone ever had problems come-a-longing from above the first cell and if so, what's the solution?...and what are you doing tomorrow?
>>>>>>> >
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