[RE-wrenches] HUP cell removal

Jeff Clearwater jeffc at villagepowerdesign.com
Fri Nov 8 11:57:05 EST 2019


Yes I like the HUPS for many of the same reasons Ray wrote:  I also like 
that depending on the site I can choose to move them in 900-1800 lb 
units (6 of the 2V cells in one steel can depending on model) or remove 
them individually (150-300lbs) and move them that way if needed.

The install time if moved in the cans is only 3 intertie cables.  I do 
recommend that folks re-torque the factory installed interties though as 
they seem to loosen with thermal cycling.

They also come with a great warranty and free shipping - the steel cases 
make them great for shipping to developing world in a container.

And I've received nothing but the best service from NW Energy Storage.

They are my go-to battery for wet cell Pb-acid for sure for large systems.

Hope that helps.

Jeff Clearwater
Village Power Design


Ray wrote on 11/7/19 7:09 AM:

> They are made up of removable 2 v cells, and they are much better than 
> the Surrettes.  They come with all the interconnects prewired, have a 
> better warranty, longer cycle life, free shipping, and most 
> importantly they Perform better.  They will outlast all of the 
> batteries you listed, not just on paper, but in real life.  They also 
> hold their voltage under load much better than the Surrettes.  Once 
> customers go with the HUPs, we quit having to worry about them.
>
> We primarily have our power equipment in the garage of the house, then 
> use a Bob cat to move the batteries straight off the truck and into 
> their final resting place in under 30 minutes.  I sold and installed 
> some of the other brands before settling on the HUPs many years ago. 
> The previous install Pic was just demonstrating how they can be 
> disassembled if needed, here's how we do it most of the time:
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
> On 11/7/19 7:27 AM, frenergy wrote:
>>
>> I'm with you, the replacement battery for these HUPs are Surrettes.
>>
>> On 11/7/2019 4:26 AM, Tump wrote:
>>> My question is WHY do folks still install these steel cased Pain the 
>>> A*& BBs when we have 2 volt cells (UnigiII/Surrette/Crown)that have 
>>> up to 2400AH @20hr rate and are easily moved by hand, fork truck, 
>>> shovel! 2 volt cells is always the way to go.
>>>> On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:47 PM, Ray <ray at solarray.com 
>>>> <mailto:ray at solarray.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We've used an engine hoist before, but for tight spaces, we built a 
>>>> rig out of unistrut with a small block and tackle.  Come along can 
>>>> be hard to use, and puts dangerous metal parts over the battery.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've since gone to a winch system, and also try to move the 
>>>> batteries on rollers without taking the cells out.
>>>>
>>>> Ray Walters
>>>> Remote Solar
>>>> 303 505-8760
>>>> On 11/5/19 6:36 AM, Michael Packard wrote:
>>>>> I did this exact same thing for a 48v Hup one battery bank.  
>>>>> Engine hoist worked like a charm and my back was very thankful!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:09 AM Allan Sindelar 
>>>>> <allan at sindelarsolar.com <mailto:allan at sindelarsolar.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Bill, I just did that a month ago, and it went amazingly
>>>>>     smoothly. Earlier, on a similar HUP replacement, I told the
>>>>>     (absentee) client that I would rent an engine hoist to lift
>>>>>     the cells out of the steel cases, and he advised me that it
>>>>>     would cost him less labor and travel if I bought one of the
>>>>>     Chinese engine hoists from Harbor Freight for $90 and just
>>>>>     kept it. Turned out to be a good application for CCC (thanks,
>>>>>     Bob-O). A concrete floor, the engine hoist, a simple hand
>>>>>     truck and a strong assistant to share the load made light work
>>>>>     of both removal and installation - all 4,000 pounds of it, one
>>>>>     200 lb. cell at a time... so I went dancing that evening.
>>>>>     Allan
>>>>>
>>>>>     > On Nov 4, 2019, at 9:46 PM, frenergy <frenergy at psln.com
>>>>>     <mailto:frenergy at psln.com>> wrote:
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > I'm going to have to remove the cells from 4 HUP Solar1
>>>>>     battery cases to change-out the pack (no option, bad access). 
>>>>>     Anyone ever had problems come-a-longing from above the first
>>>>>     cell and if so, what's the solution?...and what are you doing
>>>>>     tomorrow?
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > Thx,
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > Bill
>>>>>     >
>>>>>     > Feather River Solar Electric
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