thoughts on Trace and intertie [RE-wrenches]

Todd Cory, Bald Mt. Solar toddcory at jps.net
Sun Oct 22 12:12:12 EDT 2000


Hi Jay,

jay peltz wrote:

> Just how many of these systems are really used as battery backup?  vs just intertie.
> Did the customer get the $ difference from a batteryless to a battery backup system,
> including the losses of power?

Around here grid outages (especially in the winter) are VERY common. Most grid intertie
folks want the system specifically for the back up power and the ability to sell excess
RE to the grid is a bonus,  BUT... on a recent very cloudy day the inverter consumed
more in it's wasteful idle current than came in from the 24, 60 watt PV's... this really
is frustrating.

I remember when Trace was one of the good guys. Working with the industry to provide
much needed power processing equipment. Now that they are one of "the BIG guys" the same
old corporate BS reigns... I used to champion Trace, now I hope some competing
manufacturer comes along and steals the market from them. God how I hate the corporate
mentality.

> Of course with new MPPT controllers, sealed batteries we can improve the efficiency
> of the battery based systems.

I think sealed batteries suck. The gelled electrolyte does not fair well with high the
potentially high current demands of a 4024.

> It is only going to be with the importing of inverters from Europe ( Energy
> outfitters is looking at some that will just kick butt on trace).

When someone has the details about this will they please post it to the list?

> Hang tough folks new equipment is coming that will set the intertie market on fire!!

Yeah... sounds good to me!

TC


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