[RE-wrenches] 210.8

[Tyrone Houck]

That is odd. In my experience that's a very common condition as space in
equipment rooms is often  in high demand. As long as it's not within the
working clearance it should be a non issue.
Tyrone Houck
Oregon Solarworks LLC
CCB #204937 LRT #076
541-787-1366
tyrone at oregonsolarworks.com



On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 8:39 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> That is my understanding as well. But he feels strongly enough that he
> will pull out from the project if I don't comply and he does not want to
> discuss it further. It is his license so he can do what he wants to do.
>
> I have been working with him for 15 years and he is usually reasonably, so
> it makes me wonder why he is standing his ground.
>
> He does not even want to have a general discussion about 210.8.
>
> Very odd.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 11:07 AM Jason Szumlanski <
> jason at floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
>
>> 210.8 covers GFCI protection for outlets and receptacles. Hard-wired
>> branch circuits and feeders of a PV and ESS system are not considered
>> outlets or receptacles.
>>
>> If I am not mistaken, each subsection specifically mentions outlets
>> and/or receptacles. Even the section about mini-splits is talking about
>> cord and plug connected units, not hard-wired appliances.
>>
>> The entirety of 210 is for branch circuits only, so feeders would not
>> fall under this section.
>>
>> Hopefully that helps!
>>
>> Jason Szumlanski
>> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
>> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
>> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
>> Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:10 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aloha All,
>>>
>>> My engineer is pushing back on our design, which calls for a battery and
>>> load center to be installed within 6ft of the water pump and filter, the
>>> inverter is 7ft away. He is citing NEC 2020 210.8 and the need for GFCI
>>> protection.
>>>
>>> Now besides the practical reason for not doing this, I can not find a
>>> code reference preventing our proposed location for the battery and load
>>> center.
>>>
>>> This is for an off-grid new construction home with the PV equipment in
>>> the garage, using a Sol-Ark 15k and Discover Rack Mount batteries.
>>>
>>> Any input?
>>>
>>> Aloha,
>>>
>>> Lou Russo
>>> Owner
>>> lou at spreesolarsystems.com
>>> Office - 808 345 6762
>>> Spree Solar Systems LLC
>>> CT-34322
>>>
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