[RE-wrenches] 210.8

[William Miller]

Friends:



If there is a practical reason why something should not be done then the
code is irrelevant.



I do not like installing electrical equipment near plumbing so I get it.
Maybe a partition or wing wall could be implemented to protect from spray
if there is a leak?



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985





*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Lou Russo via RE-wrenches
*Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2025 8:39 AM
*To:* Jason Szumlanski
*Cc:* Lou Russo; RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] 210.8



Jason,



That is my understanding as well. But he feels strongly enough that he will
pull out from the project if I don't comply and he does not want to discuss
it further. It is his license so he can do what he wants to do.



I have been working with him for 15 years and he is usually reasonably, so
it makes me wonder why he is standing his ground.



He does not even want to have a general discussion about 210.8.



Very odd.







On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 11:07 AM Jason Szumlanski <
jason at floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

210.8 covers GFCI protection for outlets and receptacles. Hard-wired branch
circuits and feeders of a PV and ESS system are not considered outlets or
receptacles.



If I am not mistaken, each subsection specifically mentions outlets and/or
receptacles. Even the section about mini-splits is talking about cord and
plug connected units, not hard-wired appliances.



The entirety of 210 is for branch circuits only, so feeders would not fall
under this section.



Hopefully that helps!


Jason Szumlanski

Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956

Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208





On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:10 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

Aloha All,



My engineer is pushing back on our design, which calls for a battery and
load center to be installed within 6ft of the water pump and filter, the
inverter is 7ft away. He is citing NEC 2020 210.8 and the need for GFCI
protection.



Now besides the practical reason for not doing this, I can not find a code
reference preventing our proposed location for the battery and load center.



This is for an off-grid new construction home with the PV equipment in the
garage, using a Sol-Ark 15k and Discover Rack Mount batteries.



Any input?



Aloha,



Lou Russo

Owner

lou at spreesolarsystems.com

Office - 808 345 6762

Spree Solar Systems LLC

CT-34322



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