<p dir="ltr">That is odd. In my experience that's a very common condition as space in equipment rooms is often in high demand. As long as it's not within the working clearance it should be a non issue. <br>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br> </div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 8:39 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Jason, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That is my understanding as well. But he feels strongly enough that he will pull out from the project if I don't comply and he does not want to discuss it further. It is his license so he can do what he wants to do.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have been working with him for 15 years and he is usually reasonably, so it makes me wonder why he is standing his ground.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">He does not even want to have a general discussion about 210.8.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Very odd. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 11:07 AM Jason Szumlanski <<a href="mailto:jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jason@floridasolardesigngroup.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">210.8 covers GFCI protection for outlets and receptacles. Hard-wired branch circuits and feeders of a PV and ESS system are not considered outlets or receptacles.</span><br clear="all"></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If I am not mistaken, each subsection specifically mentions outlets and/or receptacles. Even the section about mini-splits is talking about cord and plug connected units, not hard-wired appliances.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The entirety of 210 is for branch circuits only, so feeders would not fall under this section.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hopefully that helps!</span></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br>Jason Szumlanski<div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956</span></div><div><font color="#333333" face="Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Florida Certified Electrical Contractor EC13013208</font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:10 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Aloha All,</div><div><br></div><div>My engineer is pushing back on our design, which calls for a battery and load center to be installed within 6ft of the water pump and filter, the inverter is 7ft away. He is citing NEC 2020 210.8 and the need for GFCI protection. </div><div><br></div><div>Now besides the practical reason for not doing this, I can not find a code reference preventing our proposed location for the battery and load center. </div><div><br></div><div>This is for an off-grid new construction home with the PV equipment in the garage, using a Sol-Ark 15k and Discover Rack Mount batteries. </div><div><br></div><div>Any input?</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Aloha,<div><br></div><div>Lou Russo </div><div>Owner</div><div><a href="mailto:lou@spreesolarsystems.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lou@spreesolarsystems.com</a></div><div>Office - 808 345 6762</div><div>Spree Solar Systems LLC </div><div>CT-34322</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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