[RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: Cantilevered array

Christopher Warfel cwarfel at entech-engineering.com
Mon Feb 12 08:02:31 PST 2024


Hi, in what way?  The loading is obviously less, and the clamps are 
rated for the load.

On 2/12/2024 10:56 AM, drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org wrote:
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> How do you deal with the rain gutters?
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> Drake Chamberlin
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> On 2024-02-08 16:46, Sky Sims via RE-wrenches wrote:
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>> I've designed and installed several thousand cantilevered arrays over 
>> the last three decades and never had a single issue. Unfortunately, 
>> code changes have taken a turn for the worse in most jurisdictions 
>> and oftentimes disallow cantilevering.
>>
>> Sky Sims
>> Https://EcologicalSystems.org
>> 732-462-3858
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>>> On Jan 19, 2024, at 3:09 PM, Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches 
>>> <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
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>>> I've done a fair amount of roof mounted solar structural compliance, 
>>> and I would say that the cantilevered design looks like a disaster 
>>> waiting to happen. You could not use conventional solar racking 
>>> products.  Chris
>>>
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>>> On 1/13/2024 12:42 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Drake
>>>>
>>>> My earlier reply may have been a bit facetious.  What I meant by it 
>>>> was that big-box solar contractors can be lazy when it comes to 
>>>> solar design. They will rely totally on satellite imagery and not 
>>>> check the design on the ground.  This is how you get solar proposed 
>>>> for shaded areas, where skylights and roof vents are located, or 
>>>> overhanging thin air.  This may be what is happening in the image 
>>>> you shared.
>>>>
>>>> What is unique here is someone actually specified overhanging 
>>>> panels.  Looking more closely at the image, a roof outline is shown 
>>>> but it is not clear that the outline is actually situated over a 
>>>> building.  It almost looks like there is landscaped area inside the 
>>>> outline.
>>>>
>>>> The solution of course is to get on out there, measure the roof and 
>>>> any obstructions and analyze the shading.  I use the Sun Seeker 
>>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sun-seeker-tracker-surveyor/id330247123> 
>>>> app for IOS for the shading analysis.
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> Miller Solar
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>>>> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
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>>>> 805-438-5600
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>>>> www.millersolar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/>
>>>>
>>>> CA Lic. 773985
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>>>> *From:*RE-wrenches 
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>>>> <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of 
>>>> *Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:47 AM
>>>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>>>> *Cc:* drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org 
>>>> <mailto:drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
>>>> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: Cantilevered array
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>>>> Here is a larger snip of the situation.
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>>>> Label says overhang from upper roof.
>>>>
>>>> /Drake Chamberlin/
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>>>> /Athens Electric LLC/
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>>>> /Ohio Electrical Contractor's License 44810/
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>>>> /NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional/
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>>>> On 2024-01-12 07:29, Jason Szumlanski wrote:
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>>>>     Are you sure that's what you're looking at? To me, that looks
>>>>     like there was an addition made to the house, and maybe it's a
>>>>     multi-pitch roof. That lower part might be a covered
>>>>     wrap-around porch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Jason Szumlanski
>>>>
>>>>     Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
>>>>     NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
>>>>     Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:59 PM Drake Chamberlin via
>>>>     RE-wrenches <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org
>>>>     <mailto:re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote:
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>>>>         I was given a drawing, produced by a very large solar
>>>>         company, showing the array cantilevered over the edge of
>>>>         the roof by several feet.
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>>>>         <image002.png>
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>>>>         Notice how the array hangs out over the lawn for several
>>>>         feet. Is there anyway that this is a legitimate way to
>>>>         mount modules?
>>>>
>>>>         Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>         Drake
>>>>
>>>>         /Drake Chamberlin/
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>>>>         /Athens Electric LLC/
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>>>>         /Ohio Electrical Contractor's License 44810/
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>>>>         /NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional/
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