[RE-wrenches] High current dc combiner vibration

Darryl Thayer darylsolar1 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 29 09:51:49 PDT 2023


Hi all, just a few comments, The inverter charger has a ripple on the DC.
All have this; Outback is no exception.
However, all wires should be run together, positive and negative
same conduit and same hole, as the AC ripple magnetic effects cancel
from both wires.  Also, the circuit breaker has an internal loop to assist
in the trip, you may want to form a loop on the non-breaker conductor.
Years ago, I was faced with the ripple on the DC problem using a Xantrex
inverter (I think) I added a 150-volt electrolytic capacitor across the
battery lines, CAUTION: this may destroy the Radians So check with
Outback!!!

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> All,
>
> I am in the middle of commissioning a 480kwh BP LFP battery bank,
> connected to -10- OB Radian 8kw inverter/chargers.
>
> For the DC combiner I am using midnite 2000 amp combiner boxes, modified
> to mount  class T fuses on the positive bus, for both battery inputs and
> inverter outputs.
>
> For starters, I set the master inverter at a max charge rate of 20 AC
> amps, which equates to a DC charge of about 74 A. All the other inverters
> are automatically set to this charge rate as well.
>
> Turning the chargers on one by one, I started to get quite an audible
> vibration from the combiner box at a combined charge of about 400 to 500 A.
>
> So I took the cover off of the combiner, which was vibrating noticabllly
> by feel. Most of the noise was from the cover not fitting tight. But the
> The box itself is also vibrating by feel.
>
> I took the combined charge up to 640A dc. This level of vibration
> definitely increases with an increased charge rate. And I am surprised
> because after all, we’re not talking AC here we’re talking DC. It almost
> reminds me of a large AC transformer in its behavior. The vibration did not
> seem to be originating at the inverters, then resonating to the combiner.
>
> I can dampen the vibration by adding a few things, but I’m surprised that
> this is happening. All connections in the combiner are tightened properly.
> Ideas?
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