[RE-wrenches] Hot water heater heat pumps

[RE Ellison]

They will have to pry my toilet from my cold dead rear end


Bob Ellison

> On May 26, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Dan Fink <danbob88 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> If you are doing a replacement or new, anything 55 gallons and below is just extra insulation and slightly more efficient heating (and slightly larger size). Above 55 gallons, the mandate is basically new technology. I work only off the grid, and heat pump electric uses as much energy as a full size refrigerator, not an option (unless maybe with a timer as suggested in this thread, and a large PV system). The gas side of the mandate is condensing heaters that recover waste flue heat; we already have those on the on-demand side. Hopefully the SWAT teams can do double duty and seize toilets that use too many gallons per flush also.
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>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Tom Lane <tom at ecs-solar.com> wrote:
>> The water heater heat pump tanks , I am referring to are ONLY FOR HEATING DOMESTIC HOT WATER for washing clothes , showers , baths , and dish washing . On April 15 the Feds mandated all new standards for water heaters , ALL ELECTRIC AND GAS HOT WATER HEATERS ARE NOW ABOUT TWO INCHES IN DIAMETER AND SIX INCHES TALLER that were MANUFACTURED AFTER THAT DATE . All 66 , 80 and 120 gallon electric water heaters were OUTLAWED except for Solar Hot Water Tanks  and 80 gallon water heater heat pumps are  allowed . The normal size 30 , 40 ,  and 55 gallon electric and gas water heaters are now wider and taller ! Water heater heat pump tanks are usually 55 or 50 gallons or 80 gallons and have a heat pump only ,  hybrid ( heat pump and electric )  , electric only and off modes - for vacation . The idiot Feds think they should be used all over the USA , however , my research , sez to only use them in hot humid climates in garages ( which they will cool and dehumidify ) in climates in the h
>>  ot humid south and East Texas . Do your own research , or look at the research done at the Florida Solar Energy Center  . GatorTom PS : rumor has it that the Feds may rescind  the order from their hot water Czar on 80 and 120 gallon electric water heaters ! Or maybe they  will send SWAT teams into plumbing supply houses to check on that and also their outlawing brass fittings with tiny amounts of lead .
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