[RE-wrenches] Hot water heater heat pumps

Dan Fink danbob88 at gmail.com
Tue May 26 20:21:46 PDT 2015


If you are doing a replacement or new, anything 55 gallons and below is
just extra insulation and slightly more efficient heating (and slightly
larger size). Above 55 gallons, the mandate is basically new technology. I
work only off the grid, and heat pump electric uses as much energy as a
full size refrigerator, not an option (unless maybe with a timer as
suggested in this thread, and a large PV system). The gas side of the
mandate is condensing heaters that recover waste flue heat; we already have
those on the on-demand side. Hopefully the SWAT teams can do double duty
and seize toilets that use too many gallons per flush also.

Dan Fink
Buckville Energy
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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Tom Lane <tom at ecs-solar.com> wrote:

> The water heater heat pump tanks , I am referring to are ONLY FOR HEATING
> DOMESTIC HOT WATER for washing clothes , showers , baths , and dish washing
> . On April 15 the Feds mandated all new standards for water heaters , ALL
> ELECTRIC AND GAS HOT WATER HEATERS ARE NOW ABOUT TWO INCHES IN DIAMETER AND
> SIX INCHES TALLER that were MANUFACTURED AFTER THAT DATE . All 66 , 80 and
> 120 gallon electric water heaters were OUTLAWED except for Solar Hot Water
> Tanks  and 80 gallon water heater heat pumps are  allowed . The normal size
> 30 , 40 ,  and 55 gallon electric and gas water heaters are now wider and
> taller ! Water heater heat pump tanks are usually 55 or 50 gallons or 80
> gallons and have a heat pump only ,  hybrid ( heat pump and electric )  ,
> electric only and off modes - for vacation . The idiot Feds think they
> should be used all over the USA , however , my research , sez to only use
> them in hot humid climates in garages ( which they will cool and dehumidify
> ) in climates in the h
>  ot humid south and East Texas . Do your own research , or look at the
> research done at the Florida Solar Energy Center  . GatorTom PS : rumor has
> it that the Feds may rescind  the order from their hot water Czar on 80 and
> 120 gallon electric water heaters ! Or maybe they  will send SWAT teams
> into plumbing supply houses to check on that and also their outlawing brass
> fittings with tiny amounts of lead .
>
>
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