[RE-wrenches] Demand charges for residential

jay peltz jay.peltz at gmail.com
Sun May 3 07:46:01 PDT 2015


HI William,
Yes thanks for that added information.  I didn't realize that the solar
demand charges were getting so bad beyond the monthly base rate ( which is
bad enough)   I reread that part on the website and its a really good bit
of marketing as it doesn't specifically talk about solar.

Feels like Y2K again.

jay

peltz power



On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:59 PM, William Dorsett <wmdorsett at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Jay, residential demand charges are becoming a big thing. The argument as
> I’m sure you know, is that solar customers aren’t paying their share of the
> expenses in generation and distribution. So our utility, Westar, has a rate
> increase before the corporation commission “decoupling” their fixed costs
> from energy costs. And from that they are proposing to charge new solar
> customers a high base fee for the use of the grid (~73% of the total bill)
> and a lower energy charge…plus a demand charge for capacity required for
> the highest fifteen minutes of use each month. This is becoming common
> across the US as utilities try to assure their long term rate base. How it
> plays out for us is that a high fixed charge leaves not much that solar or
> efficiency can change.  A 50% reduction of the 27% left for the energy
> charge leaves only 13.5% that’s variable. When they add in the demand
> charge, it kills the investment incentive that solar offers. Now it would
> be possible to deal with high demand charges in the same ways we used in
> trying to keep the loads from overloading old and relatively expensive
> inverters…timers and lockout relays and such to keep large loads from
> coming on simultaneously. Continuous cat and mouse game with the utilities.
>
>
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jay
> *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 7:06 PM
> *To:* glenn.burt at glbcc.com; RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Demand charges for residential
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> A different question. The tesla sites makes the claim that " often power
> companies charge for peak rates "
>
>
>
> My question is where is this happening in the us for residential customers?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Jay.
>
> Peltz power.
>
>
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jay peltz
peltz power
jay.peltz at gmail.com
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