[RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid

Exeltech exeltech at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 22 06:16:48 PDT 2014


> We used to use capacitors, but Dan from Exeltech just poo pooed that fix
> in another recent thread, so I don't have any other tricks up my sleeve.


No poo.  Just a cautionary comment.  Capacitors connected across the output of an inverter can .. in some circumstances .. cause the voltage control loop to go crazy, resulting in unstable and unpredictable output voltage.  Just how much capacitance would cause trouble depends on the inverter design, so I don't have a specific value in mind.  And no .. it may not affect all inverters .. or may affect them differently  Think of it as a "do it at your own risk" fix.  If it works with one inverter, it may not work with another model and/or brand.


Dan


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On Tue, 10/21/14, Ray Walters <ray at solarray.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid
 To: "RE-wrenches" <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2014, 12:23 PM

The Outback is not a perfect Sinewave.  It still has tiny steps in the wave, and when electronics have a problem, its usually with the wave form as it crosses zero voltage .  Instead of being instantaneous, it has a few milliseconds of time the wave is at the zero crossing, which can drive some electronics nuts.  I don't understand the issue beyond that, but apparently the electronics use the zero crossing for timers and synchronizing, and they're looking for an instant "click", not a smear.

Do the heat pumps work with the generator?  Even though generators can have more harmonic distortion, they do usually have a clean zero crossing.

If this is the case, I'm afraid I don't have a cure.  We used to use capacitors, but Dan from Exeltech just poo pooed that fix in another recent thread, so I don't have any other tricks up my sleeve.



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