[RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE

Tom Duffy Tom at thesolar.biz
Mon Jan 20 16:38:49 PST 2014


Allan

Sure I agree that picking a battery out of a hat is not system design... I just don't have time to type that much. Hence my musing about the small amount of autonomy from 200AH @ 48Volt.

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From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE

Tom,
I may be mistaken, but if I understood you correctly you have missed something. The Radian is available only in 48v, so four 12V 200 Ah batteries is eight kilowatt-hours of storage to 80% maximum DoD. Yes, it's small (my off grid home has 26 kW) but one or two strings may be adequate, depending on the customer's application and needs.
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On 1/19/2014 6:12 PM, Tom Duffy wrote:
Hi Chris

For an off grid system a 200AH 12 volt battery is rather small without resorting to parallel strings.

Three strings is only 600AH which is still on the small side, so one might ask why the 8K inverter?

The OutBack cabinet is fine for a back-up grid-tied system, not really a full off grid house

Without starting a big discussion, I would stick to a single series string sized to the load for three days autonomy.

200AH is usually a rather small weekend cabin and 600AH would be a smaller medium sized house.

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From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org<mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Chris Mason
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:16 PM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE

We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience with the outback battery system?

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Chris Mason





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