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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Allan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sure I agree that picking a battery out of a hat is not system design… I just don’t have time to type that much. Hence my musing about the small amount of autonomy from 200AH
@ 48Volt. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:22 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Tom,<br>
I may be mistaken, but if I understood you correctly you have missed something. The Radian is available only in 48v, so four 12V 200 Ah batteries is eight kilowatt-hours of storage to 80% maximum DoD. Yes, it's small (my off grid home has 26 kW) but one or
two strings may be adequate, depending on the customer's application and needs.<br>
Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/19/2014 6:12 PM, Tom Duffy wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">For an off grid system a 200AH 12 volt battery is rather small without resorting to parallel strings.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Three strings is only 600AH which is still on the small side, so one might ask why the 8K inverter?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The OutBack cabinet is fine for a back-up grid-tied system, not really a full off grid house</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Without starting a big discussion, I would stick to a single series string sized to the load for three days autonomy.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">200AH is usually a rather small weekend cabin and 600AH would be a smaller medium sized house.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Mason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We don't do a lot of off-grid systems so I am short on experience with battery systems. I have a 8KW Radian system for which I am considering Rolls Surrette or Outback 200RE AGM batteries. I know people like the Surrettes, what is the experience
with the outback battery system? <br clear="all">
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