[RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

Kirpal Khalsa solarworks at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 17:32:49 PST 2014


Thanks folks for the ideas!  So far I have advised a few things.....I will
report back any successes......

Here is the advice I have shared.
1. Get some different makes and models of LED light bulbs to try out
2. Get some different dimmer switches to try out....
3. Try some lights on non dimmer type switches.
4. Switch the fridge to the other leg of their 120\240 V service.
5. Check battery cables for loose connections.
6. Get a new fridge..(they are hoping to avoid this and it is not the only
load causing the problem)

This is an odd problem.....The battery bank and inverter are more than
adequately sized for the loads....The fridge only draws 7 A when
running....and the problem is not just under start up it is present the
entire time it is running.....The same is true for any other motor type
loads that are running....big or small.....long term the fridge is the most
problematic load because of the regular and unpredictable run times....
As LED's become more wide spread and available and cheaper I am hoping not
to run into this problem more often.....They can be a huge attribute to an
energy efficient off grid home....
Thanks for the advice...keep it coming!!!!
Thank you!
On Jan 6, 2014 4:33 PM, "Dan Fink" <danbob88 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it's for sure how fast LEDs react boB. That's why I don't see it
> with other lighting technologies like CFL etc.
> But I don't understand  a fridge that causes constant flicker when it is
> on. Too bad it's not easy to just try another fridge! Trying another light
> is much easier ;-)
>
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> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM, boB at midnitesolar.com <boB at midnitesolar.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Only during Big load surges ?
>>
>> Could it be current limiting and because LEDs are so fast on and off, you
>> notice the drop in momentary voltage ?
>>
>> Any inverter might do that under the right conditions.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> boB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/6/2014 3:45 PM, Dan Fink wrote:
>>
>> I consider LED flicker as very common when a fridge starts up, but NOT
>> while it's running. Both dimmed and not dimmed LEDs. I see flicker more
>> often on systems with smaller (or aging) battery systems of course. The
>> only particular appliance I have found causing constant flicker here and
>> with my clients is a particular brand of laser printer. And also a
>> subwoofer on the stereo (light show!)....a different subwoofer brand solved
>> that problem. Go figure, I have no idea why. Most of my inverters are by
>> Magnum. I have not found much difference with LED brands or dimmer brands.
>> I can see how this could be a problem for your client, Kirpal. None of
>> mine seem to mind a startup flicker, but if its constant that's a big
>> problem. I wish I had an answer for you, but I hope that providing this
>> information helps others. CFLs do not give me the same problem, but of
>> course have their own other problems.
>>
>> Dan Fink,
>> Executive Director;
>> Otherpower
>> Buckville Energy Consulting
>> Buckville Publications LLC
>> NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers
>> 970.672.4342
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jay Peltz <jay at asis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimmers are super specific to light brand/type.  You'll have to do the
>>> research
>>>
>>> For now swapping to regular switches should work
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
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