<p dir="ltr">Thanks folks for the ideas! So far I have advised a few things.....I will report back any successes......</p>
<p dir="ltr">Here is the advice I have shared.<br>
1. Get some different makes and models of LED light bulbs to try out<br>
2. Get some different dimmer switches to try out....<br>
3. Try some lights on non dimmer type switches.<br>
4. Switch the fridge to the other leg of their 120\240 V service.<br>
5. Check battery cables for loose connections.<br>
6. Get a new fridge..(they are hoping to avoid this and it is not the only load causing the problem)</p>
<p dir="ltr">This is an odd problem.....The battery bank and inverter are more than adequately sized for the loads....The fridge only draws 7 A when running....and the problem is not just under start up it is present the entire time it is running.....The same is true for any other motor type loads that are running....big or small.....long term the fridge is the most problematic load because of the regular and unpredictable run times....<br>
As LED's become more wide spread and available and cheaper I am hoping not to run into this problem more often.....They can be a huge attribute to an energy efficient off grid home....<br>
Thanks for the advice...keep it coming!!!!<br>
Thank you!</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 6, 2014 4:33 PM, "Dan Fink" <<a href="mailto:danbob88@gmail.com">danbob88@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I think it's for sure how fast LEDs react boB. That's why I don't see it with other lighting technologies like CFL etc.<div>But I don't understand a fridge that causes constant flicker when it is on. Too bad it's not easy to just try another fridge! Trying another light is much easier ;-)</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Dan Fink,<br>Executive Director;<br>Otherpower<br>Buckville Energy Consulting<br>Buckville Publications LLC<br>NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers<br>
<a href="tel:970.672.4342" value="+19706724342" target="_blank">970.672.4342</a><br><br> </div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM, <a href="mailto:boB@midnitesolar.com" target="_blank">boB@midnitesolar.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:boB@midnitesolar.com" target="_blank">boB@midnitesolar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div><br>
Only during Big load surges ?<br>
<br>
Could it be current limiting and because LEDs are so fast on and
off, you notice the drop in momentary voltage ?<br>
<br>
Any inverter might do that under the right conditions.<br>
<br>
Just a thought.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
boB</font></span><div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/6/2014 3:45 PM, Dan Fink wrote:<br>
</div></div></div><div><div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">I consider LED flicker as very common when a fridge
starts up, but NOT while it's running. Both dimmed and not
dimmed LEDs. I see flicker more often on systems with smaller
(or aging) battery systems of course. The only particular
appliance I have found causing constant flicker here and with my
clients is a particular brand of laser printer. And also a
subwoofer on the stereo (light show!)....a different subwoofer
brand solved that problem. Go figure, I have no idea why. Most
of my inverters are by Magnum. I have not found much difference
with LED brands or dimmer brands.
<div>
I can see how this could be a problem for your client, Kirpal.
None of mine seem to mind a startup flicker, but if its
constant that's a big problem. I wish I had an answer for you,
but I hope that providing this information helps others. CFLs
do not give me the same problem, but of course have their own
other problems.<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>Dan Fink,<br>
Executive Director;<br>
Otherpower<br>
Buckville Energy Consulting<br>
Buckville Publications LLC<br>
NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers<br>
<a href="tel:970.672.4342" value="+19706724342" target="_blank">970.672.4342</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Jay
Peltz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jay@asis.com" target="_blank">jay@asis.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dimmers are super specific to light brand/type. You'll
have to do the research<br>
<br>
For now swapping to regular switches should work<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Jay<br>
</font></span>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>
<br>
List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
Change email address & settings:<br>
<a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List rules & etiquette:<br>
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br>
<br>
Check out participant bios:<br>
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset></fieldset>
<br>
<pre>_______________________________________________
List sponsored by Home Power magazine
List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
Change email address & settings:
<a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a>
List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a>
List rules & etiquette:
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a>
Check out participant bios:
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>
<br>
List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
Change email address & settings:<br>
<a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List rules & etiquette:<br>
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br>
<br>
Check out participant bios:<br>
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>
<br>
List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
Change email address & settings:<br>
<a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
List rules & etiquette:<br>
<a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br>
<br>
Check out participant bios:<br>
<a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<br>
<br></blockquote></div>