[RE-wrenches] Oddball wire request

Mac Lewis maclewis1 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 07:45:18 PDT 2013


Hi Allan,

What about doing splicing in the j-box with float switch cable?  Landing
your homerun cable to one of the panel outputs, then splicing with a return
homerun from your next panel?   Each conductor would function as either a
series connection or a homerun.  Not ideal, but seems like it will work.

Good luck


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:19 AM, frenergy <frenergy at psln.com> wrote:

> **
> Alan,
>         At 53 watts, we're not talking about much in the way of amps....I
> don't even know but isn't there a 14 or even 16 gauge that would have the
> OD you're looking for and still carry the current, easily, with short runs
> to a combining j-box.  I just found some 14 gauge at Nassua Electrical, .2"
> OD.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Bill Battagin
>
>
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> > Hi Allan,
> >   Is it possible to use 1/2" carflex connectors and nm carflex from panel
> > to panel? You could then use THWN anywhere you wanted. This is what we
> > used to do with all our systems back in the  day....
> >
> > Daryl
> >
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> >>     Wrenches,<br>
> >>     I do a fair amount of work on ancient systems, just because there's
> >>     been off grid here for decades. I'm rewiring several old arrays for
> >>     my next door (meaning < 1/4 mile away) neighbor. The particular
> >>     array has six 53W Solec modules wired as three two-module 24V pairs,
> >>     on a Zomeworks tracker so old that it has aluminum rails and
> >>     attached freon canisters instead of the integral square tubes. Both
> >>     modules and tracker continue to work well, but the wiring is so
> >>     degraded from sun exposure that's it's bare in spots, and this is
> >>     what I want to fix.<br>
> >>     <br>
> >>     Each module has a tiny j-box - 3" x 3" x 7/8" deep. Each j-box has a
> >>     single 3/8" cord grip bushing (CGB). Each bushing has two #10
> >>     conductors coming out of the single hole in the CGB. The O.D. of
> >>     each wire is about the same as that of THWN. The problem is that the
> >>     single hole in the CGB is only large enough to fit this diameter.
> >>     USE-2 is too large, and modern PV wire is way too large. <br>
> >>     <br>
> >>     I bought a dozen replacement 3/8" CGBs from Del City, but the
> >>     matching lock rings are too large to fit inside the j-boxes. I'd be
> >>     cautious about using a narrow Unibit to drill an additional hole in
> >>     each j-box anyway, given that the holes would be so close to the
> >>     backsheet. <br>
> >>     <br>
> >>     The easiest solution would be to find some sunlight-resistant,
> >>     wet-rated single-conductor wire in #10 or #12 that has an insulation
> >>     O.D. about the same as THHN/THWN. Any ideas, please? Code is not an
> >>     issue in this instance - I just want a solution that works.<br>
> >>     <br>
> >>     I thought about using float switch cable, which is UV-resistant,
> >>     wet-rated, direct-burial-rated type TC. We keep plenty in stock for
> >>     signal circuits, and it fits and is strong. The problem is that I
> >>     need single conductors, because each module will have one series
> >>     conductor and one output conductor, and they run to different
> >>     locations. <br>
> >>     <br>
> >>     Are there any better ideas out there?<br>
> >>     Thanks, Allan<br>
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