[RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB

[Ray Walters]

Hi John;

Over 1000 cycles at 80% DOD out of a golf cart battery or L16 is almost 
double the average competition.  I may have to give the RE Trojans a 
try.  The 2 V L16 would especially be useful at over 1000 AH per unit. 
That would be good for old 12 v systems where we wanted to add capacity 
without over paralleling or breaking the off grid spinster budget.

Ray Walters

On 2/16/2012 6:39 AM, John DeBoever wrote:
>
> Wrenches,
>
> Drake,
>
> Trojan Premium lineL16RE-A, L16RE-B and L16RE-2V are optimized for 
> renewable energy applications. They offer 1,600 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.
>
> For details info, see here: 
> http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf
>
> Trojan Signature line L16P and L16H, with historically-proven 
> engineering with T-2 Technology, are recommended for renewable 
> applications, with 1,200 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.
>
> For details info, see here: 
> http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16P_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf 
>
>
> http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf
>
> All our Trojan batteries are manufactured in the USA with same 
> standards as always. The Premium Line has thicker plates and a 30% 
> thicker separator (higher quality) than the L16P and L16H, which gives 
> it a longer cycle life, but less Ah capacity.  Many renewable energy 
> customers would choose a battery with a longer life and less capacity, 
> over a battery with higher capacity and a shorter life so that the 
> battery bank does not have to be replaced as often.
>
> John
>
> John F. DeBoever
>
> Global Technical Director -- Renewable Energy
>
> *Trojan Battery Company*
>
> 12380 Clark Street
>
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>
> Tel: +1-562-236-3000 Ext. 3139
>
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> Skype: john.f.deboever
>
> Fax: +1-562-236-3239
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>
> www.trojanbattery.com <http://www.trojanbattery.com/>
>
> *From:*re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Drake
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
>
> Hello Wrenches,
>
> For small off grid systems, where money is an object, I use Trojan 
> L-16s of the standard capacity.  On this list, these have been 
> recommended by many as more durable than the HC.
>
> I recently had a customer complain when his worn out HC batteries 
> (five years) were replaced by the standard capacity L-16 batteries.  
> He wasn't satisfied with the capacity.   I'm wondering if Trojan has 
> also declined in its quality, or if he is really noticing a very 
> significant difference between the HC and the E battery.  (Or could he 
> have new drains on his system he hasn't accounted for?)
>
> Do you think the new Trojan L-16 batteries are as good as the old 
> ones?  Is it really best to avoid the HC batteries.  How much 
> noticeable difference is there between the initial performance of the 
> two?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drake
>
>
> At 04:41 AM 2/15/2012, you wrote:
>
> I have had horrible experience with Interstate L-16's both the 
> standard and
> the HC versions.
> When you have several installs that get 10+ years from the standard Trojan
> L-16's and you install (or they replace them with) Interstate's and some
> Deka's and they fail in 3 or so years, it says something.
> I see no reason that the customers would suddenly change their maintenance
> habits after years of doing it right!
>
> This also happened with a replacement set that I had.
>
> I have to blame the batteries,
> Bob Ellison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray 
> Walters
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
>
> No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life 
> per $.
>
> Ray
>
> On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:
> > Colleagues:
> >
> > Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries?  Are
> > they a good value?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > William Miller
> >
>
> Drake Chamberlin
> ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC
> OH License 44810
> CO license 3773
> NABCEP Certified PV
>
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