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    Hi John;<br>
    <br>
    Over 1000 cycles at 80% DOD out of a golf cart battery or L16 is
    almost double the average competition.  I may have to give the RE
    Trojans a try.  The 2 V L16 would especially be useful at over 1000
    AH per unit. That would be good for old 12 v systems where we wanted
    to add capacity without over paralleling or breaking the off grid
    spinster budget.<br>
    <br>
    Ray Walters<br>
    <br>
    On 2/16/2012 6:39 AM, John DeBoever wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Drake,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan
            Premium lineL16RE-A, L16RE-B and L16RE-2V are optimized for
            renewable energy applications. They offer 1,600 cycles @ 50%
            DOD @ 77F.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For
            details info, see here:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf</a>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan
            Signature line L16P and L16H, with historically-proven
            engineering with T-2 Technology, are recommended for
            renewable applications, with 1,200 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For
            details info, see here:  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16P_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16P_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">      <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All
            our Trojan batteries are manufactured in the USA with same
            standards as always.</span>
          <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
            Premium Line has thicker plates and a 30% thicker separator
            (higher quality) than the L16P and L16H, which gives it a
            longer cycle life, but less Ah capacity.  Many renewable
            energy customers would choose a battery with a longer life
            and less capacity, over a battery with higher capacity and a
            shorter life so that the battery bank does not have to be
            replaced as often. 
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">John F.
            DeBoever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Global
            Technical Director – Renewable Energy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Trojan
              Battery Company<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">12380 Clark
            Street <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Santa Fe
            Springs, CA 90670<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Tel:
            +1-562-236-3000 Ext. 3139<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#953735;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#953735;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Cell:
              +1-845-514-7600 – NY office time zone: USA EST (GMT-5)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Skype:
            john.f.deboever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Fax:
            +1-562-236-3239<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:jdeboever@trojanbattery.com"><span
              style="font-size:9.0pt">jdeboever@trojanbattery.com</span></a><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.trojanbattery.com/"><span
              style="font-size:9.0pt">www.trojanbattery.com</span></a><span
            style="font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs
                Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wrenches,<br>
          <br>
          For small off grid systems, where money is an object, I use
          Trojan L-16s of the standard capacity.  On this list, these
          have been recommended by many as more durable than the HC.
          <br>
          <br>
          I recently had a customer complain when his worn out HC
          batteries (five years) were replaced by the standard capacity
          L-16 batteries.  He wasn't satisfied with the capacity.   I'm
          wondering if Trojan has also declined in its quality, or if he
          is really noticing a very significant difference between the
          HC and the E battery.  (Or could he have new drains on his
          system he hasn't accounted for?)<br>
          <br>
          Do you think the new Trojan L-16 batteries are as good as the
          old ones?  Is it really best to avoid the HC batteries.  How
          much noticeable difference is there between the initial
          performance of the two?
          <br>
          <br>
          Thanks,<br>
          <br>
          Drake <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          At 04:41 AM 2/15/2012, you wrote:<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have had
          horrible experience with Interstate L-16's both the standard
          and<br>
          the HC versions.<br>
          When you have several installs that get 10+ years from the
          standard Trojan<br>
          L-16's and you install (or they replace them with)
          Interstate's and some<br>
          Deka's and they fail in 3 or so years, it says something. <br>
          I see no reason that the customers would suddenly change their
          maintenance<br>
          habits after years of doing it right!<br>
          <br>
          This also happened with a replacement set that I had.<br>
          <br>
          I have to blame the batteries,<br>
          Bob Ellison<br>
          <br>
          -----Original Message-----<br>
          From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">
            mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On
          Behalf Of Ray Walters<br>
          Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM<br>
          To: RE-wrenches<br>
          Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<br>
          <br>
          No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more
          cycle life per $.<br>
          <br>
          Ray<br>
          <br>
          On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:<br>
          > Colleagues:<br>
          ><br>
          > Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16
          batteries?  Are <br>
          > they a good value?<br>
          ><br>
          > Thanks in advance,<br>
          ><br>
          > William Miller<br>
          ><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Drake Chamberlin         <br>
            ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC<br>
            OH License 44810        <br>
            CO license 3773<br>
            NABCEP Certified PV</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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