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Hi John;<br>
<br>
Over 1000 cycles at 80% DOD out of a golf cart battery or L16 is
almost double the average competition. I may have to give the RE
Trojans a try. The 2 V L16 would especially be useful at over 1000
AH per unit. That would be good for old 12 v systems where we wanted
to add capacity without over paralleling or breaking the off grid
spinster budget.<br>
<br>
Ray Walters<br>
<br>
On 2/16/2012 6:39 AM, John DeBoever wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Premium lineL16RE-A, L16RE-B and L16RE-2V are optimized for
renewable energy applications. They offer 1,600 cycles @ 50%
DOD @ 77F.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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details info, see here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Signature line L16P and L16H, with historically-proven
engineering with T-2 Technology, are recommended for
renewable applications, with 1,200 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All
our Trojan batteries are manufactured in the USA with same
standards as always.</span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
Premium Line has thicker plates and a 30% thicker separator
(higher quality) than the L16P and L16H, which gives it a
longer cycle life, but less Ah capacity. Many renewable
energy customers would choose a battery with a longer life
and less capacity, over a battery with higher capacity and a
shorter life so that the battery bank does not have to be
replaced as often.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">John F.
DeBoever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Global
Technical Director – Renewable Energy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Trojan
Battery Company<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Drake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs
Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Wrenches,<br>
<br>
For small off grid systems, where money is an object, I use
Trojan L-16s of the standard capacity. On this list, these
have been recommended by many as more durable than the HC.
<br>
<br>
I recently had a customer complain when his worn out HC
batteries (five years) were replaced by the standard capacity
L-16 batteries. He wasn't satisfied with the capacity. I'm
wondering if Trojan has also declined in its quality, or if he
is really noticing a very significant difference between the
HC and the E battery. (Or could he have new drains on his
system he hasn't accounted for?)<br>
<br>
Do you think the new Trojan L-16 batteries are as good as the
old ones? Is it really best to avoid the HC batteries. How
much noticeable difference is there between the initial
performance of the two?
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Drake <br>
<br>
<br>
At 04:41 AM 2/15/2012, you wrote:<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have had
horrible experience with Interstate L-16's both the standard
and<br>
the HC versions.<br>
When you have several installs that get 10+ years from the
standard Trojan<br>
L-16's and you install (or they replace them with)
Interstate's and some<br>
Deka's and they fail in 3 or so years, it says something. <br>
I see no reason that the customers would suddenly change their
maintenance<br>
habits after years of doing it right!<br>
<br>
This also happened with a replacement set that I had.<br>
<br>
I have to blame the batteries,<br>
Bob Ellison<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">
mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Ray Walters<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM<br>
To: RE-wrenches<br>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<br>
<br>
No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more
cycle life per $.<br>
<br>
Ray<br>
<br>
On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:<br>
> Colleagues:<br>
><br>
> Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16
batteries? Are <br>
> they a good value?<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> William Miller<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Drake Chamberlin <br>
ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC<br>
OH License 44810 <br>
CO license 3773<br>
NABCEP Certified PV</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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