[RE-wrenches] Pilot Hole Template

Kirpal Khalsa solarworks at gmail.com
Thu Dec 13 11:10:41 PST 2012


Mac......Do you have a brand and model of IR Camera that you are happy
with.....This seems like a *very* useful tool if it will show you the
layout of the rafters below, from above....I will have to have a talk with
Santa!
Thanks.

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Sunny Regards,
Kirpal Khalsa
Renewable Energy Systems

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Mac Lewis <maclewis1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Your bullet-proof rafter finder is an IR camera.  It seems to always work,
> its just very expensive.  Try it out if you get a chance.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Solar Energy Solutions <
> solarenergysolutions at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What the industry needs and I would do anything to find is some kind of a
>> bullet proof rooftop rafter finder.  Imagine the time saved and pilot
>> holes gone the way of the Doe Doe.
>>
>> Santa?
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>>    *From:* Mark Dickson <Mark at OasisMontana.com>
>> *To:* 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:37 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Pilot Hole Template
>>
>>   Sounds like you already have the equipment.  But perhaps next time
>> consider DPW’s Easy Feet.  They are made to tech-screw right into the
>> decking without having to hit the truss.  Come pre-made with EPDM.  Just
>> snap a line, set and screw.  Obviously you will need to do some math to
>> make sure your decking material is substantial as well as anchored well to
>> the blue board.  I have not used them yet, but will be putting up 20kW next
>> month and will report back.  That being said, anybody else have experience
>> to report with them?
>>
>>  Best regards,
>>
>> Mark Dickson,
>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ™
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>>
>>   *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
>> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:33 PM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>> *Subject:* Re: [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>>
>>  Thanks Chris,
>>
>>  I did the same as far as verifying layout of the beams, they are all
>> the same center to center, so that helps when snapping lines on the roof,
>> we've been using the quickmount jig for a few hours and haven't missed
>> yet, so I think we got it.
>>
>>  Thanks all!
>>
>>  Jesse
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:38 PM, "Chris" <chris at solarwindworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Jesse,
>> We just finished a similar roof mount project but had the good fortune to
>> be going into 6x14 beams at “ 48” o.c. “. I put the on center dimension in
>> quotes loosely, and spent a couple hours prior to drilling the first hole
>> checking layout of the beams, directly under where we’d be drilling. The
>> ceiling rafters varied in layout an inch to 8” so this paid off!!!
>> We used a 12” x 3/16” pilot bit, for our 8” Simpson SDS galv lags. I
>> eyeballed the angle into the beam, approx 10°, as we had 4 bolts in each
>> 1.5” pipe flange base to land into the beams. The trick is having the 8”
>> lag bolt follow the hole into the 2x6 pine decking and beam. This wasn’t
>> as hard to do as we first thought it would be, and didn’t miss a one.
>> Hitting a 3x10 is going to be trickier, and your jig should help
>> immensely.
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>> Chris Worcester
>> Solar Wind Works
>> NABCEP Certified PV Installer
>> Phone: 530-582-4503
>> Fax: 530-582-4603
>> http://www.solarwindworks.com/
>> chris at solarwindworks.com
>> "Proven Energy Solutions"
>>
>>  *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [
>> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org<re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:54 AM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>> *Subject:* Re: [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>>
>>  Since this job was a spec job and the materials are already here, I
>> need to use the quick mount, so.  I took a quick mount, inserted a 1/2" EMT
>> coupling (after some filing) and stuck a 8" piece of 1/2" EMT in the
>> coupling Nd tightened it down. Checked it with my square to ensure it is
>> coming out of the flashing square to the world.  I haven't drilled a hole
>> yet, but will update.
>>
>>  Jesse
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Jason Szumlanski <jason at fafcosolar.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  We just completed a job with Eco-65's. It took about 12 man-days to
>> install 200 of the base plates and L-Feet on a flat roof with wood blocks
>> on a metal deck with about 3" total from the rolled roof surface to the
>> metal deck. We custom-cut patches to go over the metal flashing supplied
>> with the base plate.
>>
>>  Email me privately if you would like some pictures.
>>
>>  The materials are not cheap, but the installation was quite smooth and
>> did not require getting into the drop-ceiling or displacing office workers
>> below. We used 6" OMG extra heavy duty fasteners (part no. XHD006B).
>>
>>   *Jason Szumlanski** *
>> *Fafco Solar*
>>
>>  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Will White <William.White at realgoods.com>
>> wrote:
>>  Have you looked at EcoFastens Eco-65 plate?  We used them on a roof
>> similar to what you’ve got and went right into the 2x6 so we didn’t have
>> to go into the structural members.  They’ve got a flashing that will
>> work with asphalt roofs.
>>
>> Just make sure you get the right length fasteners so it doesn’t go
>> through the finished ceiling inside.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Will
>>
>> *
>> __________________________________________________________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
>> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:01 PM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>> *Subject:* [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  The roof I'm currently working on is not a typical roof.  The
>> construction is as follows:
>>
>>  2"x6" tongue and groove exposed inside, with 4 inches of foam (blue
>> board) and on top of that 3/4" plywood with asphalt shingles on top of that.
>>
>>  I'd like to make a template to ensure that my pilot bit doesn't wander
>> when I'm going through the blue board.  If I miss the beams inside, the
>> hole or the lag would be exposed.
>>
>>  Anybody run across this? Ideas?  I thought of maybe using a qucikmountflashing, with a short section of EMT attached to help guide the bit....
>>
>>  Thanks!
>>
>>  Jesse
>>
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