[RE-wrenches] Pilot Hole Template

Mac Lewis maclewis1 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 13 10:12:11 PST 2012


Your bullet-proof rafter finder is an IR camera.  It seems to always work,
its just very expensive.  Try it out if you get a chance.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Solar Energy Solutions <
solarenergysolutions at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What the industry needs and I would do anything to find is some kind of a
> bullet proof rooftop rafter finder.  Imagine the time saved and pilot
> holes gone the way of the Doe Doe.
>
> Santa?
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>    *From:* Mark Dickson <Mark at OasisMontana.com>
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:37 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Pilot Hole Template
>
>   Sounds like you already have the equipment.  But perhaps next time
> consider DPW’s Easy Feet.  They are made to tech-screw right into the
> decking without having to hit the truss.  Come pre-made with EPDM.  Just
> snap a line, set and screw.  Obviously you will need to do some math to
> make sure your decking material is substantial as well as anchored well to
> the blue board.  I have not used them yet, but will be putting up 20kW next
> month and will report back.  That being said, anybody else have experience
> to report with them?
>
>  Best regards,
>
> Mark Dickson,
> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ™
> Oasis Montana Inc.
>
>   *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:33 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>
>  Thanks Chris,
>
>  I did the same as far as verifying layout of the beams, they are all the
> same center to center, so that helps when snapping lines on the roof, we've
> been using the quickmount jig for a few hours and haven't missed yet, so
> I think we got it.
>
>  Thanks all!
>
>  Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:38 PM, "Chris" <chris at solarwindworks.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Jesse,
> We just finished a similar roof mount project but had the good fortune to
> be going into 6x14 beams at “ 48” o.c. “. I put the on center dimension in
> quotes loosely, and spent a couple hours prior to drilling the first hole
> checking layout of the beams, directly under where we’d be drilling. The
> ceiling rafters varied in layout an inch to 8” so this paid off!!!
> We used a 12” x 3/16” pilot bit, for our 8” Simpson SDS galv lags. I
> eyeballed the angle into the beam, approx 10°, as we had 4 bolts in each
> 1.5” pipe flange base to land into the beams. The trick is having the 8”
> lag bolt follow the hole into the 2x6 pine decking and beam. This wasn’t
> as hard to do as we first thought it would be, and didn’t miss a one.
> Hitting a 3x10 is going to be trickier, and your jig should help
> immensely.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
> Chris Worcester
> Solar Wind Works
> NABCEP Certified PV Installer
> Phone: 530-582-4503
> Fax: 530-582-4603
> http://www.solarwindworks.com/
> chris at solarwindworks.com
> "Proven Energy Solutions"
>
>  *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [
> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org<re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:54 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>
>  Since this job was a spec job and the materials are already here, I need
> to use the quick mount, so.  I took a quick mount, inserted a 1/2" EMT
> coupling (after some filing) and stuck a 8" piece of 1/2" EMT in the
> coupling Nd tightened it down. Checked it with my square to ensure it is
> coming out of the flashing square to the world.  I haven't drilled a hole
> yet, but will update.
>
>  Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Jason Szumlanski <jason at fafcosolar.com>
> wrote:
>
>  We just completed a job with Eco-65's. It took about 12 man-days to
> install 200 of the base plates and L-Feet on a flat roof with wood blocks
> on a metal deck with about 3" total from the rolled roof surface to the
> metal deck. We custom-cut patches to go over the metal flashing supplied
> with the base plate.
>
>  Email me privately if you would like some pictures.
>
>  The materials are not cheap, but the installation was quite smooth and
> did not require getting into the drop-ceiling or displacing office workers
> below. We used 6" OMG extra heavy duty fasteners (part no. XHD006B).
>
>   *Jason Szumlanski** *
> *Fafco Solar*
>
>  On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Will White <William.White at realgoods.com>
> wrote:
>  Have you looked at EcoFastens Eco-65 plate?  We used them on a roof
> similar to what you’ve got and went right into the 2x6 so we didn’t have
> to go into the structural members.  They’ve got a flashing that will work
> with asphalt roofs.
>
> Just make sure you get the right length fasteners so it doesn’t go
> through the finished ceiling inside.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
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>
> *From:* re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
> re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dahl
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:01 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* [ RE-wrenches ] Pilot Hole Template
>
> Hello,
>
>  The roof I'm currently working on is not a typical roof.  The
> construction is as follows:
>
>  2"x6" tongue and groove exposed inside, with 4 inches of foam (blue
> board) and on top of that 3/4" plywood with asphalt shingles on top of that.
>
>  I'd like to make a template to ensure that my pilot bit doesn't wander
> when I'm going through the blue board.  If I miss the beams inside, the
> hole or the lag would be exposed.
>
>  Anybody run across this? Ideas?  I thought of maybe using a qucikmountflashing, with a short section of EMT attached to help guide the bit....
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Jesse
>
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