[RE-wrenches] 3 Phase With 2 Inverters?

Andrew Truitt atruitt at gmail.com
Tue Nov 27 14:47:13 PST 2012


Bill Brooks posted this in 2008.  A couple of project-specific sentences
were removed to avoid confusion.

"The 6kVA value comes from the California Rule 21 that I worked on. It only
applies to split-phase 240V systems (6kVA on 120V). There is no specific
limit for imbalance on a 3-phase service.

A basic rule for single phase generation on a 3=phase service is to rotate
among the phases in a balanced manner...

...The best way to place the imbalanced single-phase generators on the service
is to test the current on all three phases and put the inverter(s) on the
most heavily loaded phase(s). This reduces the site imbalance by reducing
the imbalance on the serving transformer (lowering current on the most
heavily loaded phases). It is common for 3-phase services to have imbalances
of 10 kVA or more, so single-phase inverters can reduce the problem rather
than make it worse."




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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Chris Mason
<cometenergysystems at gmail.com>wrote:

> I really don't understand what your problem with this arrangement is.
> How would this be different from a house on phase A-B installing an
> inverter and the next house on Phase B-C installing an inverter? Or,
> installing two single phase 240V A/C units in a three phase building?
> Electricians have no issue with installing single phase equipment in three
> phase buildings so why should small inverters be any more a problem.
> While it is always neat to install three inverters n a three phase
> configuration, 4,500 watts of imbalance is trivial.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM, <holtek at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>> We were asked to inspect a  GT system installed by others. Service is 208
>> 3ph with two (?) Fronius IG 4500 208v inverters. The inverter panel is 3ph
>> with two 2pole breakers - one each side of the buss bar in a A/B, B/C
>> configuration (??). Called Fronius and they said it would work, but they
>> "don't recommend it". No other information was given as to why they don't.
>> My electrician is very uncomfortable with doing work on this system as is
>> (ME TOO!), so I am wondering if I might be able get some ammo to convince
>> system owner to add a third inverter to get the system right. What problems
>> might/will be encountered in this system if not modified? BTW - inverter
>> LCD screens were crapped out, so we couldn't readily see if system was
>> functioning properly....from metering, we think not.
>>
>>
>> Holt E. Kelly
>> Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
>> 500 Jewell Dr.
>> Waco TX. 76712
>> 254-751-9111
>> www.holteksolar.com
>>
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