[RE-wrenches] NABCEP is Union Based? That's news to me!

[Bill Loesch]

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your hard dollar numbers (beyond the $400 fee, for one NABCEP test). 

If you look back in the Wrench archives, the willingness of NABCEP to take their exam to the users was also discussed. I can remember one very specific example where the user was told the exam would be scheduled in their neighborhood and once the fee was paid, the user also had massive travel expenses. 

Caveat Emptor.

Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar

PS   You might take heart that there are some very, very knowledgeable, first class installers on this RE-wrenches List who have expressed their non interest in NABCEP for a variety of reasons. 




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wirewiz at gmail.com 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP is Union Based? That's news to me!


  I spent about $1500 for prep course, hotel, etc to pass the entry level exam, so I have that.  


  I spent about $2000 for prep, hotel, plane fare for the certification but I failed the test. I am taking it again in March. I'm studying harder this time.


  I'm 62 and my memory is not what it used to be and was never good at taking tests. When I design I have everything on my desk to refer to so I don't have to rely on my memory. And I just love installing, I've been doing it on boats for 30 years.


  I'm sorry if you think I'm whining, maybe I'll just stop. I'm just a competitive person and the ad ticked me off.


  Larry Liesner
  Wirewiz
  Westport, CT
  Phone: 203-644-2404
  Fax: 203-557-0556
  wirewiz at gmail.com
  www.wire-wiz.com






  On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Bill Hoffer wrote:


    Larry

    My PE is not required for the majority of work I do either, but I get a considerable "edge" over my competition because I have invested the time energy and went through the stress of taking the exam.  It is the same way with NABCEP, I have shown that I am willing to take the time, energy and stress to get the qualification.  I also appreciate the NABCEP taking the time and effort to promote ME in their ads. After going through the time and effort, it is good to get some tangible payback, and you want to take that away from me, because you do not have the time to take the exam...give me a break!  You have the right to run your business and promote it as you see fit and so do I!  Does any qualification mean that you know everything, of course not.  If any one of us think that, then we should get out of the business.  Cause guess what, we are in a rapidly changing landscape where we all are continually learning more and growing as an industry.  Otherwise there would not be much use in this blog at all.  All an exam really means is that you took the time, energy and stress to prepare for and take the exam, which to me is a sign of professionalism.  It is about time our industry grows up!  Is NABCEP perfect, of course not, but we all have the opportunity to help to make this organization the best that it can be.  I applaud the pioneers who had the vision and that were willing to invest the considerable amount of time, energy and stress to pull it off.  If you can do without it , more power to you, but don't whine to me about it being unfair that we want to toot our horn about what we are trying to do for this industry!

    Bill
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    Bill Hoffer PE
    NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
    Sunergy Engineering Services PLLC
    2504 Columbia Ave NW
    East Wenatchee WA 98802-3941
    SunEngSer at gmail.com (509)470-7762
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