[RE-wrenches] Outback-Honda Sync problem

[toddcory at finestplanet.com]

There is also the option of converting the genny's AC output to DC and running it through an MX60 as a rather rube goldberg way to interface a genny with a GFX inverter. I did this at home and it works great. 

Todd

On Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:06am, "Tump" <tump at hughes.net> said:

> 
> Drake I think the cause of your problems are NOT the generator but our, as
> installers a lack of accurate information.
> I believe & I would hope that someone at OB will chime in here is....
> A GFVX inverter( operative word here is Grid tied) will work w/ a generator
> NOT in that way you are trying to use it BUT using the controls of the OB to
> start a large enough generator which can in turn supply the loads of the
> house NOT to supply charging or AC source thru the "pass thru" relay of the
> OB.
> Batteries enough to sustain brief power outages then on low battery voltage
> the inverter will command the generator to start. Once the AC source is
> supplied from the gen the transfer switch (utility/gen) will move the loads
> to the gen. The OB will NOT latch onto the gen source to charge batteries
> until the utility is reconnected.
> I have found products that will take the AC gen source & supply DC current
> enough to power the loads & charge the batteries using the inverter but its
> really not the best/ cost effective way.
> Let me know if you need info on the DC power/battery charger supply. TUMP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of
> drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:57 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Outback-Honda Sync problem
> 
> 
> Your replies are greatly appreciated.  On the testing, there were no loads
> on the inverter, and I reduced the battery charging amperage to 5 amps.  I
> went to do more testing, but the generator wouldn't start.  In my limited
> experience with the Honda EU series, these are usually easy starting
> machines.  Could this be a clue?
> 
> With cheap generators on Outback off grid inverters, I use the method of
> connecting the generator at low amperage and slowly ramping the inverter
> charge rate up from the mate, unit the combination is stable at the highest
> charge rate.  Even if I could accomplish that with this system, it wouldn't
> satisfy the customer.
> 
> >From previous posts on the list, it appeared that these generators have
> been working well with Outback grid-tie inverters.  Am I mistaken in this?
> Should I refund the customer for the transfer switch, or is the problem with
> his generator?
> 
> Will anyone attest to creating reliable systems with this combination, or
> should we avoid using any generator with the on grid Outbacks?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Drake
> 
> 
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