[RE-wrenches] Outback "F"ware

[R Ray Walters]

We use Square D load centers, and recently I've used a Reliance 60 amp  
transfer switch, which was only $100, breakers, busbar, etc included.  
We use the super flex 3/4" conduit from Midnite, and it makes adapting  
from the Outback AC side easy, w/o needing their ACA. Recently we  
decided to use the Flex AC box for a more complicated system, but  
we're looking for anything now that would be UL listed for AC, and  
accept DIN rail breakers. I considered using a combiner box, but  
they're not UL listed for AC.(at least  not Midnite's) or possibly if  
SqD made a 3 pole 6 to 12 space QO box, that might work as well. (The  
3 pole 3 space box is too small, IMO)

R. Walters
ray at solarray.com
Solar Engineer




On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:34 PM, William Miller wrote:

> Ray:
>
> I do feel your pain, especially about the price.  We had proposed  
> using two XW Power Distribution Panel on one job and those are even  
> more expensive!  $500.00 plus for an empty box!
>
> Here's one specific complaint:  When using Flexware, each QOU  
> breaker needs a separate lead to the bus for feed.  Too bad we can't  
> have a bus bar for plug on breakers.
>
> How are you configuring the system without an Outback AC cabinet?   
> We used to use standard load centers with the SW systems before the  
> Outback BOS arrived (http://millersolar.com/Portfolio/Inverters/battery_iinverters/full_size_photos/3_input_sw.JPG 
> ).
>
> This can be done with the FX inverter, but the KO is so far from the  
> back plane.  I stopped by the Outback office years ago while in  
> Washington and met with Chris and boB and the boys (went to the pub  
> with them as well!).  I emphasized that I would like to see the AC  
> KO a standard distance from the back plane to allow connection via  
> standard offset to an off-the-shelf load center.  Never happened...
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
> At 10:23 AM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>> Thanks Todd;
>>
>> That was my point: I still install more Outback inverters and  
>> controllers than anything else, its just frustrating to see  a  
>> product line supposedly move forward, when in reality it's harder  
>> to use.
>> I understand William's points as well, if we're doing a multiple  
>> inverter system were still using Flex ware, it just should work  
>> better than that, and cost less. It won't be long before another  
>> manu picks this up and gives us what we need. I have two power  
>> boards being built side by side, both dual Outback inverter  
>> systems, but one were NOT doing the AC with Fware, and its going  
>> faster, and will be 100s of $$ cheaper.
>>
>> Ray
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