<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">We use Square D load centers, and recently I've used a Reliance 60 amp transfer switch, which was only $100, breakers, busbar, etc included. We use the super flex 3/4" conduit from Midnite, and it makes adapting from the Outback AC side easy, w/o needing their ACA. Recently we decided to use the Flex AC box for a more complicated system, but we're looking for anything now that would be UL listed for AC, and accept DIN rail breakers. I considered using a combiner box, but they're not UL listed for AC.(at least not Midnite's) or possibly if SqD made a 3 pole 6 to 12 space QO box, that might work as well. (The 3 pole 3 space box is too small, IMO) <div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:34 PM, William Miller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<font size="3">Ray:<br><br>
I do feel your pain, especially about the price. We had proposed
using two XW Power Distribution Panel on one job and those are even more
expensive! $500.00 plus for an empty box!<br><br>
Here's one specific complaint: When using Flexware, each QOU
breaker needs a separate lead to the bus for feed. Too bad we can't
have a bus bar for plug on breakers.<br><br>
How are you configuring the system without an Outback AC cabinet?
We used to use standard load centers with the SW systems before the
Outback BOS arrived
(<a href="http://millersolar.com/Portfolio/Inverters/battery_iinverters/full_size_photos/3_input_sw.JPG" eudora="autourl">http://millersolar.com/Portfolio/Inverters/battery_iinverters/full_size_photos/3_input_sw.JPG</a>).<br><br>
This can be done with the FX inverter, but the KO is so far from the back
plane. I stopped by the Outback office years ago while in
Washington and met with Chris and boB and the boys (went to the pub with
them as well!). I emphasized that I would like to see the AC KO a
standard distance from the back plane to allow connection via standard
offset to an off-the-shelf load center. Never happened...<br><br>
William Miller<br><br>
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At 10:23 AM 10/23/2009, you wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><font size="3">Thanks Todd;<br><br>
That was my point: I still install more Outback inverters and controllers
than anything else, its just frustrating to see a product line
supposedly move forward, when in reality it's harder to use.<br>
I understand William's points as well, if we're doing a multiple inverter
system were still using Flex ware, it just should work better than that,
and cost less. It won't be long before another manu picks this up and
gives us what we need. I have two power boards being built side by side,
both dual Outback inverter systems, but one were NOT doing the AC with
Fware, and its going faster, and will be 100s of $$ cheaper.<br><br>
Ray<br>
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