[RE-wrenches] Rooftop wiring methods between multiple subarrays

[Walt Ratterman]

Hello guys...

 

I believe (but I can be wrong) that the code is pretty clear on this.

 

.         No problem with the metal conduit.

.         Use bonding bushing on the ends (to be sure that the conduit is
bonded)

.         No problem with the ground wire touching the conduit - in fact the
bond bushing is to assure that it does a good job of it.

 

Thanks,

 

Walt

 

From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:36 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop wiring methods between multiple subarrays

 

William -

 

I agree with you about a no-shortcuts and full workmanship plan of attack.
That is how we will all stay in business and continue to make local scale PV
a success. However, when we dissect the details of running between multiple
array sections I still don't see a good solution. I'm glad to use EMT or
aluminum or stainless conduit but there are several code questionable
violations which we must address. If we're using a metal raceway we need to
address bonding. How do we bond both ends of the conduit? How do we run our
ground wire through this raceway? Is it okay if the copper wire touches the
conduit? How do we bond the conduit to actually meet NEC requirements? I'm
starting to think that the NEC doesn't have the answers.

 

-August

 

 

From: re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William
Miller
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:31 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop wiring methods between multiple subarrays

 

Colleagues:

I think the correct answer is: there are no short cuts to good workmanship.
It requires intelligent design, a judicious selection of materials and
careful installation.  EMT is appropriate in low corrosion environments, PVC
if you can control UV damage and accommodate expansion.  There are aluminum
and stainless conduits for the extreme environments and demanding
aesthetics.  I am sorry that there are no easy ways to pursue quality.

It is my understanding that the European model is to "plug and pray" with
quick connect cables, running them across roof tops and stapling them to
exterior walls.  I don't know this for a fact, but if it is true, I hope
that market does not drive the US market towards reduced standards.  I
belive it is short sighted to skimp on wiring methods with dangerous power
feeds.  I think the loss of conduit boxes on modules is a direct result of
European installation techniques and a trend towards reducing labor costs.
I welcome information from those of you with experience in other markets to
verify these hunches.

William Miller



At 04:21 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote:

EMT needs to be "pickled"  with vinegar or acid, to get the paint to hold. I
love it for inland work, but near the ocean, it'll rust through in 5 years.
I'm not sure how much more time paint would buy you.
Anybody use other plastic materials HDPE? Supposed to not have the expansion
problems of PVC.


R. Walters
ray at solarray.com
Solar Engineer





If you have to run around the roof with EMT, you can protect it from rust
with a coat of paint.

Regards,
-Hans

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