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color:#1F497D'>Hello guys…..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I believe (but I can be wrong) that the code is pretty clear on
this…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>No problem with the metal conduit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Use bonding bushing on the ends (to be sure that the conduit is
bonded)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>No problem with the ground wire touching the conduit – in fact
the bond bushing is to assure that it does a good job of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Walt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>August
Goers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'RE-wrenches'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop wiring methods between multiple
subarrays<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>William –<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with you about a no-shortcuts and full workmanship plan
of attack. That is how we will all stay in business and continue to make local
scale PV a success. However, when we dissect the details of running between
multiple array sections I still don’t see a good solution. I’m glad to use EMT
or aluminum or stainless conduit but there are several code questionable
violations which we must address. If we’re using a metal raceway we need to
address bonding. How do we bond both ends of the conduit? How do we run our
ground wire through this raceway? Is it okay if the copper wire touches the
conduit? How do we bond the conduit to actually meet NEC requirements? I’m
starting to think that the NEC doesn’t have the answers…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-August<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William
Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 5:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop wiring methods between multiple
subarrays<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Colleagues:<br>
<br>
I think the correct answer is: there are no short cuts to good
workmanship. It requires intelligent design, a judicious selection of
materials and careful installation. EMT is appropriate in low corrosion
environments, PVC if you can control UV damage and accommodate expansion.
There are aluminum and stainless conduits for the extreme environments and
demanding aesthetics. I am sorry that there are no easy ways to pursue
quality.<br>
<br>
It is my understanding that the European model is to "plug and pray"
with quick connect cables, running them across roof tops and stapling them to
exterior walls. I don't know this for a fact, but if it is true, I hope
that market does not drive the US market towards reduced standards. I belive
it is short sighted to skimp on wiring methods with dangerous power
feeds. I think the loss of conduit boxes on modules is a direct result of
European installation techniques and a trend towards reducing labor
costs. I welcome information from those of you with experience in other
markets to verify these hunches.<br>
<br>
William Miller<br>
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<br>
At 04:21 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>EMT needs to be
"pickled" with vinegar or acid, to get the paint to hold. I
love it for inland work, but near the ocean, it'll rust through in 5 years. I'm
not sure how much more time paint would buy you.<br>
Anybody use other plastic materials HDPE? Supposed to not have the expansion
problems of PVC.<br>
<br>
<br>
R. Walters<br>
<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a><br>
Solar Engineer<br>
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If you have to run around the roof with EMT, you can protect it from rust<br>
with a coat of paint.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
-Hans<o:p></o:p></p>
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