[RE-wrenches] Magnum MS4448AE Compatibility Question

jay peltz jay at asis.com
Wed Feb 11 07:39:19 PST 2009


I dont' know if you can power just the part this is giving problems  
and not the big load which is pumping?
but had a similar problem with an SW trace.
I installed a Exeltech inverter to power that load specifically and  
ever since has worked fine.

The guys at Exeltech make a wave form that everything likes.
Just a thought,

jay

peltz power
On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Howie Michaelson wrote:

> I installed an off-grid system with identical symptoms:
>
> OB VFX 3648 dual stack
> Buderus GB142-24
> Kohler 12 kW propane genny
>
> The boiler runs fine on the inverter power, but will occasionally  
> error
> out (6A) and shut down while the generator is running (usually after  
> it
> has been on for hours).  The plumber installed an APC uninterruptable
> power supply/surge suppressor (not sure of the model) before the  
> boiler,
> but when running on the internal inverter, the symptoms seemed to get
> worse.  When running on just the surge suppressor portion, the  
> symptoms
> were the same as if the APC wasn't in-line.  We've checked the  
> grounding
> at the genny, made sure the neutral was isolated except for the main
> panel, still the same problem.  Seems this is a Buderus issue (or at  
> least
> not an inverter one) - see:
>
> http://www.buderus.net/Support/TechnicalInfoForums/tabid/132/forumid/15/threadid/4334/scope/posts/Default.aspx
>
> I haven't been able to make the boiler run reliably when the genny  
> is on,
> which is a problem in our climate, when the client goes away in the
> winter...
>
> Howie
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> On Wed, February 11, 2009 7:47 am, Darryl Thayer wrote:
>> Some of the hot surface ignitors I have seen draw a lot of current,  
>> in the
>> order of amps.  I would expect the inverter to drop out if it were
>> overloaded however.  Also does the magnum drop voltage at very low  
>> loads?
>> Where the furnace controls can not function due to low voltage or  
>> poor
>> wave shape.
>>
>> Darryl
>>
>>
>>>
>>> This may be true about high frequency switching interfering
>>> with something, but I believe the problem with this ignitor
>>> is that it is a very poor design. Judging by what I read on
>>> their company forum, it doesn't look like they have a
>>> clue about
>>> this problem. Maybe you can go inside the Buderus and
>>> filter something there or maybe you can fine another product
>>> to try ?
>>>
>>> boB
>
>
>
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