[RE-wrenches] GPS units
Tom Elliot
telliot at wagonmaker.com
Tue Jan 27 14:37:32 PST 2009
The elevation accuracy of commercial GPS units is horrible, I've seen them
off by more than 100 feet and they are not reliable at all for the requested
usage in this instance. Surveyors use GPS units that are accurate in both
horizontal and vertical axis measurements but they use radio frequency units
to get down to accuracy levels within inches on either.
My suggestion is to contact a manufacturer of surveying equipment and asking
them for technical information on how their units achieve high degrees of
accuracy. But be advised, they are very expensive.
Tom
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From: Peter Parrish
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] GPS units
A caution to all. There are various types of GPS units, with varying
accuracies. The most accurate are spec'd at around +/- 6 feet. I have a
Garmin Etrex and under normal circumstances it delivers at that spec or
better (+/- 3 feet). Near tall buildings or in a steep canyon, the accuracy
goes to pot but for known reasons (multiple reflections of the radio
signals). I have no manufacturer's info on elevation, but knowing how GPS
units work, the resolution/accuracy in elevation should be roughly the same.
- Peter
Peter T. Parrish, President
California Solar Engineering, Inc.
820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065
Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885
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peter.parrish at calsolareng.com
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Lombard
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] GPS units
William,
Topographic maps are great if your familiar with them. A laser if you can
afford it or the best I have heard of is fill a tube or pipe with water from
the pump to your tank and measure the psi at the base of it. The calculation
is 2.31 feet of lift for every psi. Not everyone has their piping rolled out
or on site yet so this could be a challenge and again is very accurate.
BTW - GPS units are inaccurate to the extent that they are 40 feet off
horizontally and 90 feet vertically. This means you could be up to 130 feet
off. Big difference when your sizing for particular pump out put.
Good luck,
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, William Miller <wrmiller at charter.net>
wrote:
Does anyone have a foolproof tool to measure elevation? I have researched
GPS units recently. They are notoriously inaccurate for elevation:
http://wiki.motionbased.com/mb/GPS_Unit_Elevation
Here are few more links with GPS fundamentals:
http://www.adventurenetwork.com/cgi-bin/adventurenetwork/GPS_101.html
http://www.gpsreview.net/electronic-compass/
I have a Suunto Observer watch with an altimeter. I think I can get
relatively accurate measurements of DIFFERENCE in elevation if I measure the
two elevations in quick succession. I will be trying it.
William
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