620 VDC [RE-wrenches]

[Joel Davidson]

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Bill,

Most inspectors and I agree that 600 volts on a spec sheet and 600 volts on 
a meter plus/minus the meter's tolerance is 600 volts. Show me the spec 
sheet show me the meter reading. Over 600 volts DC can be put into some 
inverters, but John Berdner said that SunnyBoy inverters have no over 
600-volt tolerance and over-voltage voids the warranty and a ROM chip 
records the over-voltage, so I have not put over 600 volts into a SunnyBoy.

Joel Davidson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Brooks" <billbrooks7 at yahoo.com>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: 620 VDC [RE-wrenches]


>
> Joel,
>
> What does 600-Volts nominal mean to you? As Drake pointed out, 600Vac has 
> a
> peak voltage of 850V. Any momentary exceeding of 600V, when using 
> reasonable
> statistical design numbers, will be momentary at best and have no affect 
> on
> the equipment unless the equipment is faulty to start with.
>
> Bill.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Davidson [mailto:joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: 620 VDC [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> The NEC is very specific about 600 volts DC and AC in Chapter 1, paragraph
> 2. The 600-volt Rule is that fundamental. Almost all AWJ and Code Priests
> interpret Article 690.7 "lowest expected ambient temperature" as the 
> lowest
> temperature recorded by their chosen Weather Scribes even if that low
> temperature only happened once many years ago. From a practical 
> standpoint,
> some solar modules can not be used optimally with some inverters. Every 
> time
>
> I get a good module/inverter match, the manufacturers change specs,
> availability, price, or all three.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Drake Chamberlin" <Drake.Chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:37 PM
> Subject: 620 VDC [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>>
>> Hello Wrenches,
>>
>> Some inverters are able to withstand voltages above 600 VDC.  The
>> Solectria 95KW can take up to 620 VDC without harming the electronics.
>>
>> If we size a system so that the record low temperature is gives a voltage
>> of under 620 VDC, a viable system can be installed.  There is a question,
>> however, about the Code compliance of this, since building wire is rated
>> at 600 volts.  Higher voltage wiring is available, but will likely not be
>> cheap or convenient to use.  Also, what about 600 V modules and PV cable?
>>
>> Since this is DC, there are not any cycles to create a voltage peak.  A
>> 600 VAC RMS nominal system can have (if my calculations are correct) a
>> peak voltage of close to 850 volts.  Also, system voltages can range up 
>> to
>
>> 10% from the nominal, resulting in voltages of as high as 660 VAC RMS on
>> 600 volt systems.
>>
>> The question is, "can we have a system with a possible low-temperature,
>> open circuit voltage of 620 VDC with wiring and modules rated for 600
>> volts?  Can the other 20 volts be considered within the nominal range?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Drake
>>
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