NABCEP again (was opportunity to address pumbing code issues) [RE-wrenches]

Joel Davidson joel.davidson at sbcglobal.net
Wed Nov 14 10:16:25 PST 2007


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Since 2001, NABCEP said that certification is voluntary, yet NABCEP 
certification requirements keep popping up. Does NABCEP actively refuse to 
allow jurisdictions to require certification?
Joel Davidson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Rice" <danrice at scinternet.net>
To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: opportunity to address pumbing code issues [RE-wrenches]


>
> Conrad,
>
> The question of single wall vs. double wall heat exchangers is an issue in
> some jurisdictions. The fact that boiler systems can heat sidearm tanks 
> with
> single wall heat exchangers, but solar thermal systems using non-toxic
> propylene glycol working fluid require double wall heat exchangers is an
> impediment to solar where they're required, IMO. You may want to address
> this with the inspectors there.
>
> I'm licensed in Utah. There's an existing solar license classification 
> that
> lists "solar energy equipment" (a vestige of the 70's and 80's) that some 
> of
> us have used for PV as well as Thermal. Utah has recently put together a 
> PV
> specialty contractor's license classification. Those of us with the old
> license doing both PV and Thermal will qualify for the new PV license. The
> old solar license will be reassigned to Thermal only. Thermal allows
> plumbing up to the point of interconnection (allows the installer to do 
> the
> tie-in), but the new PV license forbids work on AC systems and equipment
> (though it specifically permits work with inverters, which are AC 
> equipment,
> last I checked! And NABCEP certification is REQUIRED by the State for the 
> PV
> license -it's the de-facto license exam and qualification program -I'm not
> in favor). So a PV license holder is required to have a licensed 
> electrician
> do all of the AC work.
>
> Dan Rice
> Abundant Sun, LLC.
> NABCEP PV certified -yes
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Conrad Geyser" <conradg at cape.com>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:28 AM
> Subject: opportunity to address pumbing code issues [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> |
> | Wrenches!
> | Please give me any input you can think of  for a presentation that I am
> | slated to give tomorrow night at a state plumbing and gas inspectors
> | association.
> | I'm considering this a pretty important opportunity at least for my
> | state(Massachusetts) if not everyone.
> |
> | Relevant topics in order of priority that I can imagine are:
> |
> | -IPC (International Plumbing Code) adoption and any issues with that
> | document.
> |
> | -Licensing diversification as done in California and ?  Please write and
> | tell me:
> |     1)What state you are from.
> |     2)What variety of licenses are available.  I.E., can a RE person 
> pull
> a
> | permit and do a tie in under their license?
> |
> | -Anything else you can think of.
> |
> | thanks,
> | Conrad Geyser
> | Cotuit Solar
> | NABCEP thermal TM certified
> | 508-428-8442
> |
>
>
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