Use of NABCEP Certification [RE-wrenches]

[Bob-O Schultze, Electron Connection]

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Joel,
Certainly. But I don't believe that's the case in ME where Daryl is  
having an issue. In that case, there is a state requirement to have a  
NABCEP Cert. sign off or actually do the job. I haven't got a  
straight answer as to which yet. Other states do similar stuff not  
necessarily tied to NABCEP certification.  We'd far rather they  
didn't do that. Takes the whole "voluntary" out of it.
Sorry I had to miss the San Jose thing. Heard it was a good one.
Bob-O
On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Joel Davidson wrote:

>
> Bob-O,
>
> Some consultants do not "sign off" on a job. They state verbally or in
> writing that they inspected and tested the system, and that it was
> installed and was performing properly or as specified, but they do  
> warrant
> nothing. They simply say, "It looks good to me, but I do not guarantee
> anything." Also, some jurisdictions require designers to be licensed
> professional engineers or licensed architects (not just licensed
> contractors) and some jurisdictions and/or clients require  
> designers to
> carry professional liability insurance. The consultant's written  
> scope of
> work should help to clarify what happened. If nothing is in  
> writing, then
> it's just hearsay and you know what that's worth.
>
> Joel Davidson
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Bob-O Schultze, Electron Connection econnect at snowcrest.net
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:11:22 -0700
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Use of NABCEP Certification [RE-wrenches]
>
>
>
> Daryl,
> If Maine requires a NABCEP installer to actually install the system
> and we've got a rogue out there scamming it, then PLEASE send all the
> pertinent data to Pete Sheehan. psheehan at nabcep.org
> If what you say is true AND can be verified AND Maine does NOT allow
> folks to DIY (many states do) and get the rebate, then NABCEP will
> take action against the Certificant. Depending on the facts of the
> case, this could be anything up to revocation of his/her  
> certification.
> However, IF Maine allows a licensed electrician to do the job and a
> NABCEP Cert. to sign off on it, it might be very tricky to get actual
> proof of that unless somebody flips and rats out the others.
> Keep me in the loop.
> Bob-O
> On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:46 AM, Penobscot Solar wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>    I have for the second time now met local people who have installed
>> their own system and had it signed off for by not only an electrician
>> but a separate, certified NABCEP installer. Supposedly, this NABCEP
>> certified installer is acting as a "gun for hire", signing off on
>> systems for a fee, even though he is not involved in the actual
>> installation. In the state of Maine the rebate/incentive program is
>> only available to persons having their systems installed by a  
>> licensed
>> electrician AND a NABCEP certified installer.
>>    Has any one else had dealings with this type of situation? It is
>> certainly no incentive for people to use experienced, licensed,
>> certified installers if they can just hire them to sign off on their
>> system.
>>
>> Daryl DeJoy
>> Penobscot Solar Design
>> NABCEP Certified installer
>> Licensed electrical contractor
>
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