Takagi water heater [RE-wrenches]
Jay Peltz, Peltz Power
jay at asis.com
Thu Aug 25 17:22:27 PDT 2005
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Hi Doug,
Takagi's website says nothing about outside install of the T-KD20.
Other models do mention inside and outside, so I presume that it
should not be installed outside. So probably there is no electric
heater built in.
jay
peltz power
On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Doug Pratt wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> David, Jay,
> I haven't had experience with the new sealed Takagi, but got plenty
> with the
> earlier T-K1 & 2, which probably use the same electronic controls.
> These
> units all draw 2-3 watts when "off", but didn't get ruffled by
> having their
> power shut off overnight, nor by SW waveforms. (not sure about mod-
> sine)
>
> I would certainly NOT recommend outside mounting in most U.S.
> climates,
> particularly where David lives! Jeez, why tempt Fate? But do they
> put the
> freeze protection heater in the sealed units? Seems like they're
> aiming
> these units for indoor mounting.
>
> Cheers,
> Doug Pratt
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> The other electrical part is the freeze protection which is an
> electrical heating element since the units are designed to be mounted
> outside in all weather.
>
> For those that live in really cold winters this drain could be a big
> problem.
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
>>
>>
>> Dave Palumbo,
>>
>> As you are probably aware, the T-KD20 is a sealed combustion
>> refinement of
>> the T-K2 which is a slightly bigger T-K1 (and some other
>> refinements).
>>
>> Since all these machines incorporate a GFCI, I can guarantee you
>> that the
>> advertizing hype of "uses no energy when not producing hot water"
>> is a bit
>> of poetic license. What their (obviously non technical pureists) ad
>> copy
>> people should have said was "...no _gas_ energy...".
>>
>> Unfortunately, I am not aware of _any_ sealed combustion tankless
>> heater
>> that also does not have an addiction for AC power.
>>
>> There are more than one tankless units available that use no AC
>> power _and_
>> have no standing pilot flame, but these are not sealed combustion
>> units.
>>
>> There is an available wired remote control for the Takagi water
>> heaters
>> (adjusts the temperature from the remote location as well as provides
>> rudamentary diagnostics for fault isolation) which elliminates at
>> least its
>> own display when the off position is selected. Perhaps Chi (sp?) at
>> Takagi
>> in CA (tel 888 882 5244) can give you the latest lowdown on this
>> machine
>> in concert with the remote.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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