CA. Senate Bill 1 [RE-wrenches]

Todd Cory, Mt. Shasta Energy Services toddcory at finestplanet.com
Fri Jun 3 09:32:22 PDT 2005


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I also have seen some mighty poor electrical work done by "B" general contractor
license holders. I am totally amazed they are allowed to do electrical work and
it makes a mockery of those of us that got C-10's.

Todd


Barbra Kerr wrote:

>
> I guess I will put my two cents in on this topic and you may want to give
> right back to me!
>
> Please know that the NECA/IBEW labor unions are the behind this particular
> part of the bill.    Please also know that I am a member the Associated
> Builders & Contractors (ABC) a merit shop (Non-union) contractor's trade
> association. As a holder of both a C-10 and B license, I am in favor of this
> requirement, primarily for the following reasons.
>
> 1.  The NEC (the guiding light and bible of any decent electrician) is first
> and foremost written for the protection of life, life safety, and property -
> not to insure that anything particular system or component will work.  As an
> electrician ALL of my education, training, and in field experience is
> primarily focused on these three things - and then on engineering a system
> that will perform within these guidelines. This is hammered home day-in &
> day-out, and we carry our bible with us throughout the business day.  C-46's
> (Plumbers) are not indoctrinated into or under the NEC code and therefore do
> not possess (in general) the detailed knowledge required to perform this
> work.
> 2.  The only common scopes of work between a C-46 and C-10 are:
>         a.  Roof mounting integration
>         b.  Ground mount structures
>         c.  Trench design (in most cases)
>         d.  The securing of "collectors" (water or PV) to a racking system.
>      From this point on our scopes of work differ dramatically.
>
> 3.  Electrical interconnection:
>
>         C-46's are not trained in derating of main services, CB retaining
> clips, or GROUNDING.  They are not trained in box and wire fill, or wire
> sizes and voltage drops.  They are not trained to recognize if an existing
> service needs to be replaced even if spaces are existing, they are not
> trained to do load calcs, or recognize an existing fire hazard or what to do
> to prevent one.  They are not trained in using electric meters to check
> voltages, current readings, and troubleshooting of electrical systems.  In
> other states, such as New York and New Jersey ONLY a C-10 can touch 600v
> wire and/or the main service.  This also goes for connecting the modules in
> series, and the strings in parallel.
>
> These are my main reasons for supporting C-10s doing this work.
>
> Now that having been shared, PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL OF
> C-46's in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE LEARNED MUCH OF THIS AND DO
> EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT WORK - These people I know personally. And when I have
> competed against them and lost - I let the clients know that they will do a
> great job for them.
>
> Graham is right about the Scope of work defined in the CSLB.  When have we
> known our government to be ahead of the curve?  Until a few years ago, there
> was no such thing as Grid tied PV. 99.9% of PV was off grid in the outback
> or remote locations.  No reason to include the building/utility officials or
> train people.   Let's face it, as this industry grows, the systems
> (government, building, etc...) will change until we hit static and have all
> the kinks and concerns addressed.
>
> Finally, there is nothing stopping a C-46 from testing for their C-10
>
> Barbra K. Kerr
> President
> Kerr Enterprises, Inc
> PO Box 1992
> Twain Harte, Ca 95383
> 1-800-886-2258
> 209-586-9607 Fax
> 858-337-5097 Cell

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