Bird kills [RE-wrenches]

[Joel Davidson]

Thanks for the info, but you blew it with the "not for general publication"
notice. Anything in this newsgroup is on the world wide web. 8 birds and 2 brown
bats since 1981. So I'm asking all you lurkers out there, each time some
anti-windpower wacko says wind machines kill birds, ask for evidence.

matthew tritt wrote:

> Joel,
>
> O.K. 3 each seagulls - chopped to mincemeat - Arco oil platform off Santa
> Barbara, 1981; 2 each Coopers Hawk, broken necks, Santa Barbara County and
> San Luis Obispo County, late 80's; 1 each Thresher - late 80's, San
> Bernardino County; California Condor - Tehachapi Mountains, 90's guy wire; 1
> each Golden Eagle, - 90's Tehachapi Mountains - guy or blade; 2 each little
> brown bats(!), Monterey County - 90's Blade strikes (fast rotor) and some
> more. This is not for general publication by the way. Some people don't want
> to be exposed to environmental lawsuits or attacked by Audubon club members.
> Especially the Condor thing. I also have seen another Golden Eagle fried by
> phase to phasing on a 12 kv line! Very bad transmission pole design.
>
> Matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Davidson" <joeldavidson at earthlink.net>
> To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Bird kills [RE-wrenches]
>
> > Wind Wrenches only,
> > I haven't had a wind machine since 1978, but more birds bounced off my
> mountain home picture window than ever landed on my tower. I never met a
> person who actually saw a dead bird at the base of a wind machine. How many
> dead birds at the base of wind machines have you guys actually seen? Where?
> What species?
> > Best regards,
> > Joel Davidson
> > "A bird in the hand makes blowing your nose difficult."
> >
> > Jeff Oldham wrote:
> >
> > > This bird kill thing really gets to me, people love to feed off of this
> out of porportion sound bite. I saw a study that put some perspective on it.
> Windows in downtown Toronto kill more birds than all of the windgens in N.
> America. Here at my home, since the tower has been up, my windows have
> killed 2 birds and zero for the tower/wind gen.
> > >
> > > When someone brings up the subject of bird kills ask them if they have a
> cat...
> > >
> > > -jeff
> > >
> > > Jeff Oldham
> > >
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