Installation details [RE-wrenches]

[Joel Davidson]

Dear Jeff and everyone,
Band of PV vigilantes? Now that's an image even more ludicrous than a bunch of
PV stakeholders and bureaucrats cobbling together a PV rebate program (just
kidding). I think we have a functional rebate program that should not be changed
until new goals are clearly defined and agreed upon. Please stop the
finger-pointing and tone down the rhetoric and focus on continued education.
Before going off half-cocked, let's get the details about this Long Beach system
and suggest to the homeowner how his system can be improved.
Best regards,
Joel Davidson
"Let he who is without screw-up cast the first screwdriver." - from The Code

"Jeffery Wolfe, Global Resource Options" wrote:

> Bill,
>
> So let's empower some bureaucrats to do it better? I know that some folks in
> the CA programs really know their stuff, but would the folks they hire to go
> out and review/approve installs be that good?
>
> Bureaucracy is sometimes the solution, but not always. I think some active
> "self-policing", without becoming a band of vigilantes, might be a better
> solution. It should at least be tried.
>
> I'm with Joel on this one.
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Brooks [mailto:billb at endecon.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:13 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Cc: Jeff Newmiller; Chuck Whitaker
> Subject: RE: Installation details [RE-wrenches]
>
> Okay Joel,
>
> How many conversations are you willing to make to fix the crap that is going
> on now throughout the state? The point is that it has gotten out of hand and
> the current hands-off approach just ain't workin'. This is simply a case in
> point that is repeated all too often by well-meaning, incompetent people.
>
> Bill.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Davidson [mailto:joeldavidson at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:55 PM
> To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> Subject: Re: Installation details [RE-wrenches]
>
> I think it is a good idea for you or Graham or anyone else who is concerned
> about this installation at the corner of E. Deborah Street and Los Coyotes
> Diagonal in the City of Long Beach (Los Angeles Thomas Map Book page 796-C2)
> in
> LADWP territory (not CEC) talk to the homeowner and LADWP solar program
> personnel before making more CEC restrictions.
>
> Bill Brooks wrote:
>
> > Graham,
> >
> > That is lovely!!! I bet this is on a SunnyBoy inverter as well. Actually,
> if
> > they laid the panels flat on the roof and got rid of a couple of the extra
> > panels, this system might actually work.
> >
> > So Joel, do you still hold to your opinion that everything is okay with
> the
> > level of restrictions in the CEC program?
> >
> > Bill.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graham Owen [mailto:graham at solarexpert.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:05 AM
> > To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
> > Subject: RE: Installation details [RE-wrenches]
> >
> > Here is a picture of what I would consider a bad example installation.
> > I also had absolutely nothing to do with this job.
> >
> > http://www.solarexpert.com/images12/competition.html
> >
> > By the way, I think a good piece of advice for solar thermal turned PV
> > installer is to not use plumbing tube cutters for cutting EMT.
> >
> > Graham
> >
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