Hypalon Cable [RE-wrenches]

[Bill Brooks]

Matt,

No disdain here for the backwoods folks. I have no intention to alienate
anyone. Also, my dictionary fails me on what "elitist basura" means. I'm not
easily offended, but it sounds like really good material to use in the
future as long as I know what it means.

As you said they are the pioneers that have lived with this stuff for
decades and truly love it. Without them, where would we be? Your points are
well spoken and well taken. I was not insinuating that anyone on this list
is a moron. The fact that someone participates in this type of a forum shows
that they desire to do the best work possible. Examples of moron's work does
abound--if you would like to see some I would be happy to show you.

This technology is fun and challenging and that's why I have dedicated my
career to it. The ideas you suggest about are actually in process and it
will take several years to get to the place where we have systems and
professionals that have the credentials you suggest. These processes have
come under fire by a broad cross-section of folks, but once people do their
homework and see the value of these activities, tones change and acceptance
eventually comes. I hope you will be one of those who helps shape the
process.

Bill.


-----Original Message-----
From: matthew tritt [mailto:solarone at charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:21 AM
To: RE-wrenches at topica.com
Subject: Re: Hypalon Cable [RE-wrenches]


Bill,

Disregarding the fact that you are no doubt going to alienate a number of
good people with this kind of elitist basura, I think that the points you so
poignantly make in your treatise actually boil down to this:
 Many of us who have been in the solar business for a long time are, in fact
pioneers in a relatively new arena. We had to make up the rules as we went
along, as there were no rules (except for common sense) to follow. Pioneers
generally don't like to follow, they prefer to be out where there are no
rules and no one breathing down their neck. Being the first to attempt
something can be exciting, rewarding and
just plain F U N. Who, in their right mind, wants to have the fun taken out
of their work? Isn't that the main reason for having a life's work? Because
it's something that feels so "right" to be doing it that it is fun and not
really work at all?

It's hard to have new rules imposed on you, especially when it seems that
many of these rules are arrogant in tone and pointless in fact. Obviously,
these rules are made with safety in mind, in spite of the fact that they
appear to be more based in intransigence and tunnel visioned conservatism.
Not to question and challenge rules and laws that appear to be stupid IS
stupid!

 When the avante guarde runs into the status quo (see NEC) there's going to
be trouble.

 I believe that there needs to be 1: A Solar Energy Testing and Approval
Agency of some kind. To hell with the NEC. Don't they have enough to do with
what they already oversee? 2: A Solar Guild (for lack of a better word) of
those involved strictly in solar, wind and small hydro design, construction,
sales and installation. (This has been said before, but it's an idea that
would work)

Also

There's just a chance that those back woods boys you so vehemently disdain
take just as much pleasure in their accomplishments in setting-up a 4
battery system in a one room cabin as you do in building a 10 kW grid
inter-tie for that SUV wielding yuppie couple who consume enough natural
resources for 10 third world families.

Do try and be nice Bill, not everyone who takes exception to the rules is a
moron.

Matt



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