Trace/Onan starting [RE-wrenches]

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>Allen , we usually install a DPDT toggle switch (interupting the hot lead 
>to R7/R8 or the remote switch) so that the customer can  bypass the 
>inverter and alows one to use the remote in the event of inverter failure. 
>We also install a 1/2" conduit strap holder over the switch to prevent 
>accidental switching, can also be used where the inverter is placed ( 
>stupidly so) somewhere the shovel,  bike,can hit the battery CB turning 
>off the inverter loosing all those stored paramiters.11/4 conduit strap
>Any tips on paralleling Onan's factory remote or on-unit start switch with
>the SW? Thank you.
>Allan at +E
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Drake Chamberlin - Electrical Energy <solar at eagle-access.net>
>To: <RE-wrenches at topica.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:40 AM
>Subject: Re: Trace/Onan starting [RE-wrenches]
>
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I found my notes from when I talked to Gary at Trace several years back,
> > concerning the auto start on the Onan.  The manual that I used is for
> > Version 4.01.
> >
> > The manual stated:
> >
> > "For this type of generator, relay RY 8 duplicates the "START" position
>and
> > relay RY 7 is used to duplicate the "STOP" position (using the common and
> > normally closed contacts). "
> >
> > Gary at Trace told me that the error in the above quotation from the
>manual
> > is that both relays must use the common and normally open contacts.  The
> > generator connected in this way has started (and stopped) reliably from
>the
> > inverter for several years.
> >
> > Drake
> >
> >
> > At 03:17 PM 07/12/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Wrenches,
> > >This just came in today. I did not do the install, or sell the equipment.
> > >Any body have any experience with Onan's and Trace SW remote starting?
> > >"Dave - In my house I have a Trace SW series
> > >inverter/charger. I have two Onan generators, the
> > >first, 6.3 NHDFB 7512M, propane fueled, the second, a
> > >JC Industrial Engine, 12.5 Kwatt, 1964 vintage,
> > >propane fueled, can be converted for gas operation.
> > >I had the 6.3 NHD hooked up using a 3 wire start
> > >setup. All the electrical work was done by a licensed
> > >electrician, who had no previous Onan/Trace
> > >experience. When I would start the generator via the
> > >Trace unit. The generator would start no problem but
> > >as soon as it would start, a grinding noise would
> > >occur & the generator would shut down. I put 4
> > >starters into this unit. I then purchased the second
> > >Onan generator, convinced that the first generator was
> > >a lemon. I still have the same 3 wire hook up. Now the
> > >second generator is doing the same thing. The last two
> > >times that grinding noise has come about, I have
> > >immediately shut the generator off via the Trace unit,
> > >& walked out to the generator & started the generator
> > >via the Start/Stop switch located on the generator. It
> > >starts fine with no grinding. I would appreciate any
> > >assistance that you might have to offer. Thank you. - Jim______"
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
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