[RE-wrenches] MC4s are listed for THWN, right?

Ray ray at solarray.com
Tue Apr 27 10:07:12 EDT 2021


I'd 2nd using the Polaris and similar insulated block connectors.  Easy 
to make a good connection, easy to test voltage without disturbing the 
connection, easy to double check connection torque, and easy to 
reverse.  They are direct burial rated, although I've never actually 
felt that confident.

I've actually seen a couple of fires started with split bolts, so I feel 
those need to go the way of the dinosaurs.  That's probably a hundred 
year old connector, are very difficult to check after being taped, can't 
check voltage, and the sharp edges can short through the tape, if not 
really done well.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 4/26/21 11:16 PM, frenergy wrote:
> Blake,
>
>             Its great to get definitive clarification on this MC4/THHN 
> issue, we've been using 4-14 Polaris connectors with good results.  
> Being inside a Nema3 can and having silicone grease in the Polaris 
> makes for a solid, durable connection.  Inspecting some of these that 
> are now 17 years in the field shows very good condition for the wire 
> landing in the Polaris and the condition of THWN-2 wire insulation.  
> We haven't had the best of luck with Buchanans.
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049
> www.frenergy.net
>
> On 4/26/2021 5:41 PM, Blake Gleason wrote:
>> Corey,
>>
>> Thank you!  Agreed, the message from Staubli's Eng dept is much less 
>> confusing (with the exception of the statement about THHN tending to 
>> be solid vs stranded).
>>
>> All -
>> What are you folks using to transition from PV Wire to THHN/THWN-2 
>> inside a junction box?  We used to use split bolts, which make an 
>> awesome electrical connection, but are time-consuming and not easily 
>> serviceable.  Wire nuts (the right ones) are Listed, but never felt 
>> reliable for that purpose. Same for WAGO levers.  I hear about people 
>> using Buchanan splice caps, but I wonder about trading one set of 
>> crimping problems for another.  And of course, the only problem with 
>> using THHN in an MC4 is that the compression gland may not be as 
>> watertight as it is with PVWire, and the Buchanans certainly are not 
>> watertight.  Terminal blocks generally aren't listed, definitely 
>> aren't watertight, and raise inspectors' eyebrows.  Why is this so 
>> hard for me??
>>
>> Best,
>> Blake
>> Thanks
>>
>


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