[RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test

Wed Jun 19 15:21:45 EDT 2019

We have a few systems from same period that are showing delamination. I
just learned about a pending class action lawsuit:
https://www.classaction.org/news/sanyo-panasonic-hit-with-class-action-lawsuit-over-allegedly-defective-solar-panels

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On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:14 PM Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Also remember workmanship is a way around performance issues
> Jerry
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 11:35 AM Drake <drake.chamberlin at redwoodalliance.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Aren't Sanyo modules warranted for 20 years? That is less, but still
>> substantial.
>>
>> Does anyone know if Sanyo modules are affected by Potential Induced
>> Degradation (PID) when connected to an ungrounded inverter?
>>
>> At 01:43 PM 5/30/2018, you wrote:
>>
>> To all that were asking about warranty on the old Sanyos, I was told that
>> Panasonic that took over the Sanyo product will warranty the product, that
>> being said, David was the contact I had and who is it that told me this,
>> please take note that the Sanyo warranty was less then most other
>> manufactures. David.Lopez at us.panasonic.com
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 8:12 AM, <chris at oasismontana.com > wrote:
>> Donâ€™t forget about me please!
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>> :>)
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>> --Chris @ the sunny Oasis MT
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>> From: Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com >
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:07 PM
>> To: chris at oasismontana.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
>>
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>> Yes, I do. Will get it in the next day or so, he is a rep but can make
>> the connection for you
>> Jerry
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>> On Tue, May 15, 2018, 7:10 AM <chris at oasismontana.com > wrote:
>> Jerry:Â  Do you have Panasonicâ€™s contact information for warranty
>> service?Â  Iâ€™m hoping I donâ€™t need it but if I do….<
>> Â
>> Thanks!
>> Â
>> Chris Daum
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>> 406-777-4309 or 4321
>> 406-777-4309 fax
>> www.oasismontana.com
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>> From: RE-wrenches < re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf
>> Of Chris Worcester
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:00 PM
>> To: 'RE-wrenches' < re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
>> Â
>> We did a number of Sanyo HIP195, 200, and 210 installs, so far weâ€™ve
>> had a few failures showing up as backsheet bubbles. Some of the bubbles
>> were so big that the wafer fell away from the glass! Hereâ€™s a couple
>> photos. Didnâ€™t think Panasonic would take care of this, after an
>> exhausting warranty procedure that drew on for months on one system… their
>> Japanese enggineering dept said no to our request for replacements on that
>> one eventually. Â Â
>> Â
>> Chris Worcester
>> Solar Wind Works
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>> Cell 530-448-9692
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>> chris at solarwindworks.com
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>> From: RE-wrenches [ mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org
>> <re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Ron Young
>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:49 AM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] old sanyos failing Iso test
>> Â
>> I have several dozen older Sanyoâ€™s installed from that period. Are
>> there any obvious physical degradations to look for or specific tests that
>> can show issues? I donâ€™t have a megger but have two systems installed in
>> grid tied systems and a couple off-grid. No performance complaints as yet.
>> Â
>> Ron
>> Â
>> On May 13, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarage01 at gmail.com >
>> wrote:
>> Â
>> Kirk
>> I dont know if you know this but Panisonic will warranty the old Sanyos,
>> just got this from a rep last week.the issue you are having may be due to
>> the failing of the back sheet under the frame edge.
>> Jerry
>> Â
>> On Sun, May 13, 2018, 6:04 AM Kirk Herander <vtsolar at icloud.com> wrote:
>> I now have two systems with older Sanyos(Panasonic), circa 2004, which
>> consistently fail the inverter (Solaredge) startup Insolation test in wet
>> weather. Usually 200 – 550 kohms, just below tthe inverters 600k limit.
>> Confirmed by my meggering. I discovered this after convincing the owners to
>> upgrade the inverters from old SMAâ€™s which donâ€™t test for it. Anyone
>> else see this issue in older panels, in particular Sanyos?
>> Â
>> Kirk Herander
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