[RE-wrenches] Supporting heavy flooded batteries

Ray ray at solarray.com
Thu Apr 4 10:16:58 EDT 2019


HUPs can be disassembled into separate cells then reassembled back in 
the can.  They have bolt on buss bars.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 4/4/19 1:58 AM, RE Ellison wrote:
> I get large 2 volt cells 230  to 250 pounds each and then connect them 
> all together in a custom made case lined with glass board  (shower 
> stall liner)
>
> Most of the places I have to put them you could not put in a steel 
> cased battery it just would not be physically possible
>
> Picture 12 cells @ 230 # off the truck to the dock off the dock to the 
> boat off the boat to the dock and up 16 steps that are 10 to 12” tall 
> then a run 100 yards uphill to the power building ?
>
> Can’t do any of that with a steel cased battery ! Can hardly do it 
> with single sells.
>
> I don’t know if you can get HUPS uncased or not?
>  Then assemble them on site ?
>
> I don’t generally put them directly on the floor, I want some space 
> under them but the case bottom is well supported
>
> Just some thoughts
> Bob ellison
>
> On Apr 4, 2019, at 12:50 AM, William Miller <william at millersolar.com 
> <mailto:william at millersolar.com>> wrote:
>
>> Ray:
>>
>> I am setting the batteries up off the floor for these reasons:
>>
>> 1.I am trying to gain maximum ventilation.
>>
>> 2.I rarely spill electrolyte, but if I do, I don’t want the steel 
>> cases sitting in it.
>>
>> 3.I haven’t figured out how to slide a 1700 pound battery across 
>> _anything_.
>>
>> 4.With the proper arrangement of blocks, I can roll the tray right 
>> over them with a pallet jack and lower it gently onto the blocks.
>>
>> Wiliam
>>
>> *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> <mailto:re-wrenches-bounces at lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ray
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:25 PM
>> *To:* re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> <mailto:re-wrenches at lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Supporting heavy flooded batteries
>>
>> I put Fiber Reinforced Panel directly on the floor, and slide the 
>> battery on that.  Why are you setting them up off the floor?
>>
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>
>> On 4/3/19 6:08 PM, William Miller wrote:
>>
>>     Jay:
>>
>>     Is this for one battery?  I presume you crane the battery into
>>     the cart and then roll it into a battery box or enclosure…
>>
>>     I forgot to mention that steel is verboten unless it is lined
>>     with plastic.
>>
>>     William
>>
>>     Miller Solar
>>
>>     17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>     Quote of the day:  “If there is a job you hate, get really,
>>
>>     really good at it. Maybe you will hate it less.“ W. Miller
>>
>>     *From:*jay [mailto:jay.peltz at gmail.com <mailto:jay.peltz at gmail.com>]
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:06 PM
>>     *To:* William Miller; RE-wrenches
>>     *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Supporting heavy flooded batteries
>>
>>     HI William,
>>
>>     Here is how I do big HUP type batteries.
>>
>>     Metal frame, and wheels.  You can use either hi durometer
>>     synthetic or metal wheels.
>>
>>     This one the guy had powered coated
>>
>>     Jay
>>
>>     Peltz Power
>>
>>     <image001.jpg>
>>
>>     On Apr 3, 2019, at 3:05 PM, William Miller
>>     <william at millersolar.com <mailto:william at millersolar.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Friends:
>>
>>     For years we have been supporting large form-factor flooded
>>     battery trays by setting them on pressure treat 4X4s. We have
>>     developed a cradle we bolt onto a special-order, narrow pallet
>>     jack and roll them over the wood supports.  It is not a seismic
>>     solution, but it works.
>>
>>     Just today I have learned that at least one large battery
>>     manufacturer is recommending against using any form of wood,
>>     apparently due to the potential for rot and/or conductive paths. 
>>     I am told that the solution is steel racking with plastic covers
>>     over the steel.
>>
>>     How are the rest of you supporting your large flooded batteries?
>>
>>     Thanks in advance,
>>
>>     William
>>
>>     Miller Solar
>>
>>     17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>>
>>     805-438-5600
>>
>>     www.millersolar.com <http://www.millersolar.com/>
>>
>>     CA Lic. 773985
>>
>>
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