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<p>HUPs can be disassembled into separate cells then reassembled
back in the can. They have bolt on buss bars. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/19 1:58 AM, RE Ellison wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I get large 2 volt cells 230 to 250 pounds each
and then connect them all together in a custom made case lined
with glass board (shower stall liner)</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Most of the places I have to put them you could not
put in a steel cased battery it just would not be physically
possible</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Picture 12 cells @ 230 # off the truck to the dock
off the dock to the boat off the boat to the dock and up 16
steps that are 10 to 12\u201d tall then a run 100 yards uphill to the
power building ?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Can\u2019t do any of that with a steel cased battery !
Can hardly do it with single sells.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I don\u2019t know if you can get HUPS uncased or not?</div>
<div dir="ltr"> Then assemble them on site ?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I don\u2019t generally put them directly on the floor, I
want some space under them but the case bottom is well supported</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Just some thoughts</div>
<div dir="ltr">Bob ellison</div>
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On Apr 4, 2019, at 12:50 AM, William Miller <<a
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">Ray:</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">I
am setting the batteries up off the floor for these
reasons:</span></p>
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">I
am trying to gain maximum ventilation.</span></p>
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">I
rarely spill electrolyte, but if I do, I don\u2019t want the
steel cases sitting in it.</span></p>
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">I
haven\u2019t figured out how to slide a 1700 pound battery
across <u>anything</u>.</span></p>
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#993366">With
the proper arrangement of blocks, I can roll the tray
right over them with a pallet jack and lower it gently
onto the blocks.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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RE-wrenches [mailto:<a
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Supporting heavy
flooded batteries</span></p>
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<p>I put Fiber Reinforced Panel directly on the floor, and
slide the battery on that. Why are you setting them up
off the floor? </p>
<pre>Ray Walters</pre>
<pre>Remote Solar</pre>
<pre>303 505-8760</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/3/19 6:08 PM, William Miller
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
this for one battery? I presume you crane the battery
into the cart and then roll it into a battery box or
enclosure\u2026</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
forgot to mention that steel is verboten unless it is
lined with plastic.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">William</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Miller
Solar</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">17395
Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">805-438-5600</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
href="http://www.millersolar.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.millersolar.com</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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really, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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jay [mailto:<a href="mailto:jay.peltz@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">jay.peltz@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Miller; RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Supporting heavy
flooded batteries</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">HI William,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is how I do big HUP type
batteries.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Metal frame, and wheels. You can
use either hi durometer synthetic or metal wheels.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This one the guy had powered coated</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jay</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peltz Power</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 3, 2019, at 3:05 PM,
William Miller <<a
href="mailto:william@millersolar.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">william@millersolar.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Friends:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">For
years we have been supporting large
form-factor flooded battery trays by setting
them on pressure treat 4X4s. We have developed
a cradle we bolt onto a special-order, narrow
pallet jack and roll them over the wood
supports. It is not a seismic solution, but
it works.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Just
today I have learned that at least one large
battery manufacturer is recommending against
using any form of wood, apparently due to the
potential for rot and/or conductive paths. I
am told that the solution is steel racking
with plastic covers over the steel. <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">How
are the rest of you supporting your large
flooded batteries?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Thanks
in advance,</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Miller
Solar</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">17395
Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">805-438-5600</span></p>
</div>
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href="http://www.millersolar.com/"
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style="color:purple">www.millersolar.com</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Lic. 773985</span></p>
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