[RE-wrenches] Silly off grid

[Jerry Shafer]

Wrenches
I have designed and installed estate size systems, 12, 18, 24 and more then
30k, systems, sure we need an energy table, customer must be cash qualified
but we all need to think bigger. Remember even just 18 years ago when a big
GT inverter was a 2500 now we have 60 k on the wall. We all know what it
costs, give them a shotgun number if they dont flinch go for it, not
everyone we sell to is as energy smart as we are, use that to help them
understand what they are asking for and what you can do to help them size
smart and you will be on there christmas card list from now on and have big
off grid systems under your belt. We have been using multable blue ion
stacked 16 k's enclosures with Outback Rads, you can even go with hybrid AC
coupling and just regulate the charging with BMS on each Ion. Dont limit
yourself, think whats in the future and build it now. We are all here to
build green, build smart, build for the future, we dont need to think small
however.
Jerry
NABCEP PV, PVI


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 7:30 AM Darryl Thayer <darylsolar1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I have a call like this, usually they do not have an understanding of
> the costs.  Then a design fee it usually ends there.  I have twice done a
> preliminary design expecting to get a design contract but only wasted my
> time.  One of these potential customers did get a system design from
> another and did get a system not what the customer asked for but greatly
> reduced.  So a design fee first.
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:57 PM Ray <ray at solarray.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh boy, do I get a bunch of calls for folks wanting to take a 24/7 grow
>> operation off grid.  Dana nailed it: Green house.  Even with LED grow
>> lights the numbers are just insane.  Every time I get a call like this now,
>> I immediately ask for a design fee.  They usually are not to be heard from
>> again.  If they're not serious, why should we have to do a serious design
>> for free?
>>
>> Plus why would they want to do that off grid, when there are plenty of
>> legit grow operations on grid for much lower electric costs?  It always
>> struck me as Fishy.   On the other hand, grid tie on the roof of a legit
>> grow operation,  that makes much more sense.
>>
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>
>> On 7/24/18 9:24 AM, Dana wrote:
>>
>> I noticed the 970 area code – If they are growing weed suggest a green
>> house.
>>
>>
>>
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